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10/18/2008 10:21:19 PM EDT
Does anyone use the Otis Kit exclusively for cleaning of their firearms, or is it being used pretty much for bench and field?  Pros and Cons?
I'd love to get away from rods, bore guides, and muzzle protectors.

Thanx

BD1
10/18/2008 11:35:25 PM EDT
[#1]
I bought a couple, thinking they were great ideas. After using them, I gave them away/lost them/whatever. In a pinch, they might be OK. For anything other than "I forgot my real cleaning kit", forget it.
10/19/2008 4:02:37 AM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
I'd love to get away from rods, bore guides, and muzzle protectors.

Thanx

BD1


I have nothing against the Otis kit. And think it makes a great Field Kit. I also think it’s much better than a bore snake. But I see the Otis Kits as being more work than the conventional cleaning rod. And, when pitted against the GI kit, the GI kits section rod can be used to punch out a stuck case. The Otis kit on the other hand?

A member here recently posted a pic of the military issue Otis Kit. Someone from the .gov must be reading this forum and read my previous comments on the Otis. The military issue Otis kit now I guess contains the GI sectional cleaning rod along with the standard Otis kit contents.  

The Otis method……

- The patch has to be installed on the jag in a certain method.
- The cable has to then be fed through the bore.
- Then the T-handle attached.
- Now your ready to pull the patch through, only to repeat the process over again.

The conventional method……

- Punch patch with jag.
- Insert rod into bore.
- Push rod through bore.
- Patch falls off.
- Repeat.

I still think for at home, on the bench, nothing beats the traditional rod, jag and bore brush.


ETA: www.armedforces-int.com/categories/close-quarters-battle-kit/close-quarters-battle-kit.asp
10/19/2008 6:28:46 PM EDT
[#3]
Link for the GI kit?
10/19/2008 9:13:25 PM EDT
[#5]
Thank you for the information.

Bd1
10/19/2008 9:17:32 PM EDT
[#6]
I don't thread the T handle onto my OTIS kit. I just wrap the cable around my hand and pull. Stings a bit, but a lot faster than screwing the handle on.
10/20/2008 8:36:39 AM EDT
[#7]
I think the Otis G.I. kit has been around for a little bit (year plus), but check ebay and the EE here for a good price on it.  I got mine of ebay for like $50 new (might've been stolen or some shit but no serial numbers to check )  and I just saw recently on the EE someone selling them for $80.  Thats a lot better than the like $200 MSRP I've seen on some websites.  I really like it and the sectional rod is very nice plus you get the multi-tool, only problem is that the one I got also includes crap for the M249.  It just make me sad knowing I can't own one...  But if Zoombies ever attack and I happen to run accross one when I'm scavenging the local military base, you better beleive I'll be able to keep it clean and spitting lead
10/21/2008 3:07:49 PM EDT
[#8]
I pretty much use the Otis method exclusively, whether in the field or on the bench.  For me, the patch gets into the lans and grooves better than when I use a jag on a regular cleaning rod.
10/26/2008 4:54:42 PM EDT
[#9]
The T-handle in the Otis kit is not that time consuming to attach. If you utilize the fact that it is a 2 piece design then you only need to attach the base once. Use the base as a weight as you thread it through your barrel and then slide the 2nd part of the handle on it. Putting on the handle of the t-handle does not take extra time, it takes as much time as wrapping it around your hand (but hurts less
).



Just my .02



I like the Otis Kit. I alternate back and forth though.
10/27/2008 2:00:17 PM EDT
[#10]
My unit just got the M-4\M-16 Softpack Cleaning\System. It uses a short two piece rod for the bore brush, and a flexable pull through rod for the barrel. I don't think it's any better than the traditional three section cleaning kit, and it doesn't fit in the rifle for easy storage. You can only clean one way because it's a pull through, and if you screw up the different patch sizes you get the pull through stuck in the barrel. It's got more small pieces to loose, and it's not as usefull. I'll stay with the older system if I had any choice.

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