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11/22/2010 12:15:26 PM EDT
Can AR15.com please help identify what M4 Carbine accessories the U.S. Army currently issues to its soldiers?
This includes lights, NV, IR, optics, lasers, etc.

Thanks!
11/22/2010 1:11:26 PM EDT
[#1]
I guess they vary from unit to unit..
11/22/2010 2:40:10 PM EDT
[#2]
Why?
11/22/2010 2:50:59 PM EDT
[#3]
who that guy with 1 post
11/22/2010 2:55:31 PM EDT
[#4]
Current "standard" issue is:

M68CCO (Aimpoint CompM4)
M150RCO (TA31F-based 4x32 ACOG variant)
KAC M4 RAS
AN/PEQ-15
Surefire M951XM07
MATECH BUIS
AN/PVS-14B

In reality, though, there's a lot of older equipment still circulating, like M2 Aimpoints, AN/PEQ-2As, or items purchased on ONS, unit discretionary funds, so there's not any hard and fast rules as to what people get, and not everyone gets everything.  As has been said, "it varies from unit to unit" what's in use in the field, but those are the current "standard" parts.  

~Augee
11/23/2010 7:13:07 AM EDT
[#5]
We all need to start somewhere...
11/23/2010 7:17:27 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Current "standard" issue is:

M68CCO (Aimpoint CompM4)
M150RCO (TA31F-based 4x32 ACOG variant)
KAC M4 RAS
AN/PEQ-15
Surefire M951XM07
MATECH BUIS
AN/PVS-14B

In reality, though, there's a lot of older equipment still circulating, like M2 Aimpoints, AN/PEQ-2As, or items purchased on ONS, unit discretionary funds, so there's not any hard and fast rules as to what people get, and not everyone gets everything.  As has been said, "it varies from unit to unit" what's in use in the field, but those are the current "standard" parts.  

~Augee


Thanks!

I ran across this the other day - https://www.evotactical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=105&products_id=338; it may be a handy reference. I have seen a lot of diversity on what's fielded (and what non-MIL users have).



11/23/2010 8:54:44 AM EDT
[#7]
From: https://www.evotactical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=105&products_id=338

Colt M4 Carbine (SOPMOD Configuration) with KAC RAS Handguard & KAC Vertical Grip.


Optics & Iron Sights:

ACOG TA33

ACOG TA31 RCO

ACOG TA11

ACOG TA01 w/ T1COG Aimpoint Micro Mount

EOTech 552

EOTech XPS

EOTech 3X Magnifier

Aimpoint T1 Micro

Aimpoint Comp M2

Aimpoint Comp M4s

Aimpoint 3X Magnifier

Burris XTR 1-4 24

Leupold Prismatic

Leupold CQ/T MK4

Leupold 1.5-5 MK4

Nightforce NXS Riflescope

Colt C-MORE Tactical Sight

A3 Detachable Carry Handle

LaRue Tactical IronDot

Troy BUIS

Matech BUIS

LaRue BUIS

LMT BUIS

Troy Front Sight

PRI Front Sight



Lasers:

PEQ-2A

PEQ-15

PAQ-4C

DBAL-A2

OTAL



Lights:

Surefire L72

Surefire M910

Insight M6

Surefire M95

Surefire M98

Surefire Scout

Surefire Mini Scout



Silencers & DD's:

Knight's Armament M4QD

YHM Phantom, and QD Flash Hider

GemTech M496D

Surefire M4FA556-BK

Ops Inc CQB 15th Model

M203 Grenade Launcher



Night Vision:

PVS-22

PVS-14 & Magnifier

PVS-17

PVS-24

KAC UNS

CNVD-T



Misc Hardware:

LMT SOPMOD Stock

Magpul CTR Stock

Magpul UBR Stock

Colt M4 Stock

LaRue Tactical Free-Floating Handguard

LaRue Tactical Vertical Grip

Magpul MIAD Grip

Magpul Magazine Pull

Harris Bipod with LaRue QD mount
11/23/2010 10:24:53 AM EDT
[#8]
That is an excellent poster, and created by Mfingar, a member here.  He posts his excellent photographs quite often here.  

It's a listing of many commonly seen accessories, however, it doesn't in any way reflect a "standard issue" scenario.  All this is open source information in terms of what the official standard is, though, as established, "standard" doesn't necessarily mean standard.  

~Augee
11/23/2010 10:26:58 AM EDT
[#9]
Some Army units are still issued the M16A2, maybe even the Comp M2 on the fixed carry handle if they're lucky.
11/23/2010 4:54:18 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
That is an excellent poster, and created by Mfingar, a member here.  He posts his excellent photographs quite often here.  

It's a listing of many commonly seen accessories, however, it doesn't in any way reflect a "standard issue" scenario.  All this is open source information in terms of what the official standard is, though, as established, "standard" doesn't necessarily mean standard.  

~Augee


We have a couple of those posters in our armory to have a "lay-out" when we do engineer consulting. It's a great poster, I actually used it today when working with some engineers to refer to equipment we didn't have on hand.
11/23/2010 9:05:11 PM EDT
[#11]
"Standard" issue would depend on the mission.

Afghanistan? Acog, KAC RIS, etc.

11/23/2010 10:05:10 PM EDT
[#12]
This is what I was issued on the way out the door enroute to A'Stan earlier this year...


Colt M4 Carbine
MaTech BUIS
M68 CCO (Aimpoint CompM4)
Knight's M4 RAS
7 USGI 30-rnd Mags
That's it...

Once we got here we were issued...
PEQ-15's
P-Mags (as many as you could get out the door with)

I Personally added...
LMT SOPMOD Stock (I found one in the arms room)
Gear Sector G2P Sling

Mind you, I'm an Aviator, and this is my backup/bugout weapon. As such, the PEQ made it onto my M240H and we don't need all that super duper swoopy stuff.

As for common around here amongst other folks are...
Both CompM2 and M4 Aimpoints (More than half of the Carbines here have 'em)
just about any ACOG variant you can think of (probably about a third of all Carbines)
A suprising amount of ELCANs (at least 1-in-15)
Grip-Pods are slowly overtaking the Knight's VFG's
PMAGs! PMAGs! PMAGs!
Way more PEQ-15s than its other counterparts, but a Few -2's are still floating around
11/23/2010 10:45:14 PM EDT
[#13]
Standard issue in the unit I come from is a regular M4 Carbine with KAC carbine DI handguard, Matech BUIS, and a M68 CCO aka Aimpoint Comp M2. When I was in Iraq during OIF 08-10 most of us (minus PL's and PSG's) were still carrying PVS-7Bs, while they had 14s. No gangster grips unless we bought them, squad leaders had ACOGs, and most team leaders had a PEQ-15 (or PEQ-2) and 203. I better stop now before this turns into a bitch fest about how much USAREUR sucks balls at getting new equipment to joes.
11/23/2010 11:22:17 PM EDT
[#14]
Recently everyone in my unit has gotten brand new acog's and surefire m952v's. Some SOPMODS also. and those new 320 grenade launchers.
11/24/2010 2:08:08 AM EDT
[#15]
if you really want it to be right, grind the bible verse references off the ACOGs.  :)  I like the verses on there myself.
11/24/2010 3:39:46 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
who that guy with 1 post
probably some damn troll. First post was a question, when it should have been a pic of his new AR. Yeah buddy we are going to be watching you and you better buy a Colt, Noveski, Larue, LMT or a Bravo Company / Spike's tactical variant or you can't hang out with us

11/24/2010 5:54:05 AM EDT
[#17]
No such thing as a "A3 Detachable Carrying Handle" in the services.  That's a commerical term as the M16A3 is a M16A2 with the only difference being full auto capability instead of burst.  Its just Detachable Carrying Handle.

CD
11/24/2010 6:12:49 AM EDT
[#18]
I am building my M4 like this as well.

What does the plain aimpoint m2 mount look like?
11/24/2010 6:50:09 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
I am building my M4 like this as well.

What does the plain aimpoint m2 mount look like?
Go to the Bravo company home page and take a look at the pic of a U.S soldier in the middle of the page you will see the mount.

11/24/2010 7:48:37 AM EDT
[#20]
LOL

I remember in the 80's the accessory choice was the dirty black sling or the new black sling. If you were lucky you had the wire top sling adaptor with the black nylon butt stock strap.

LOL
11/24/2010 7:52:58 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
I am building my M4 like this as well.

What does the plain aimpoint m2 mount look like?


It's the Aimpoint factory QRP mount.

~Augee
11/24/2010 9:49:46 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
Recently everyone in my unit has gotten brand new acog's and surefire m952v's. Some SOPMODS also. and those new 320 grenade launchers.


M320s? you a group guy? If not I didnt know big army was getting 320s
11/24/2010 9:56:13 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
I am building my M4 like this as well.

What does the plain aimpoint m2 mount look like?


It looks like this

11/24/2010 10:27:53 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I am building my M4 like this as well.

What does the plain aimpoint m2 mount look like?


It looks like this
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/jcrowl/100_0102.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/jcrowl/100_0104.jpg
Thanks. I erased my photos so could not find one for him.

11/24/2010 11:01:37 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Recently everyone in my unit has gotten brand new acog's and surefire m952v's. Some SOPMODS also. and those new 320 grenade launchers.


M320s? you a group guy? If not I didnt know big army was getting 320s


Big Army is fielding M320s now.  Needless to say, the conversion is not yet universal, expect to see the M203 around for a long time still, particularly with reserve and guard units.  However, the M320 is getting out there as well.  

Have not used one myself personally, but I've heard good and bad things about them.  They're definitely different than the venerable '203, though.

~Augee
11/24/2010 12:11:16 PM EDT
[#26]
cool..ive seen them in the arms room but only as a stand alone system, not mounted to a rifle..I too have heard good things about them but havent had the chance to shoot one yet.  its made by H&K so I expect good results from it
11/24/2010 2:17:41 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
cool..ive seen them in the arms room but only as a stand alone system, not mounted to a rifle..I too have heard good things about them but havent had the chance to shoot one yet.  its made by H&K so I expect good results from it


Again, I haven't used one yet, but just from seeing and handling it setup on carbine, IMHO, it's better suited to a standalone style than under barrel mounted, too high profile, and awkwardly shaped for trying to get into a hasty supported position.  This opinion could easily change of course based on more experience with the platform, it's just my initial take.

It's kind of funny though- the M4 profile barrel was adopted to fit the M203, which not soon after had the mounts redesigned anyways.  Then USSOCOM adopts the M4A1 RIS II, specifically with the requirement of free-floating the M203, only to go and adopt the M320.  Not a SCAR fan personally, but they did have a point when they said that everything should mature as a *system.*  

~Augee
11/24/2010 8:23:22 PM EDT
[#28]
Lots of M320 here in Astan with big Army.  I haven't played with on yet but I'll take the lower profile of the M203.  Then again I prefer a M79.

CD
11/24/2010 8:33:29 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
I am building my M4 like this as well.

What does the plain aimpoint m2 mount look like?


How many builds do you have going right now? Kitty Kat,XM177ish,M4......
11/24/2010 9:41:44 PM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
if you really want it to be right, grind the bible verse references off the ACOGs.  :)  I like the verses on there myself.


Ours are still 100% Bible-blessed as of October 2010.
11/24/2010 9:53:54 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:

I ran across this the other day - https://www.evotactical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=105&products_id=338; it may be a handy reference.



There are a lot of things on that list that are not standard Army issue.  
11/29/2010 9:31:52 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
This is what I was issued on the way out the door enroute to A'Stan earlier this year...
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr133/rainierhooker/DSC_4530-1024.jpg

Colt M4 Carbine
MaTech BUIS
M68 CCO (Aimpoint CompM4)
Knight's M4 RAS
7 USGI 30-rnd Mags
That's it...

Once we got here we were issued...
PEQ-15's
P-Mags (as many as you could get out the door with)

I Personally added...
LMT SOPMOD Stock (I found one in the arms room)
Gear Sector G2P Sling

Mind you, I'm an Aviator, and this is my backup/bugout weapon. As such, the PEQ made it onto my M240H and we don't need all that super duper swoopy stuff.

As for common around here amongst other folks are...
Both CompM2 and M4 Aimpoints (More than half of the Carbines here have 'em)
just about any ACOG variant you can think of (probably about a third of all Carbines)
A suprising amount of ELCANs (at least 1-in-15)
Grip-Pods are slowly overtaking the Knight's VFG's
PMAGs! PMAGs! PMAGs!
Way more PEQ-15s than its other counterparts, but a Few -2's are still floating around


Straight from the source! Thanks for the feedback!
11/29/2010 9:36:01 AM EDT
[#33]
Interesting to note... I didn't think 320's would be issued yet... thank god they're going to rail-mountable grenade launchers.
11/29/2010 11:00:33 AM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I am building my M4 like this as well.

What does the plain aimpoint m2 mount look like?


It looks like this
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/jcrowl/100_0102.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b328/jcrowl/100_0104.jpg


Thank you very much.

Ive bought 3 mounts in the past couple weeks and they are all fake, because they obviously are different than that.
I am not even going to mount them on my M4 because the ARMS M68 mount I have now is zeroed.
All I want is a used issue mount. Just for nostalgia reasons. It looks like I wont get one unless I want to shell out 129$ plus s/h

(sarcasm) I am so glad all these importers can makes loads of $$$$ on copied, inferior versions of a quality products.
11/29/2010 11:24:58 AM EDT
[#35]
oh for fucks sake, another thread like the M240/M249 "which is better?" thread.

Did school let out early or something? Fucking wikipedia, use it!
11/29/2010 11:58:53 AM EDT
[#36]
I found somethings interesting on that poster listed. I never knew anybody was ever issued YHM suppressor? I had read some were bought/used (reportedly) but not "standard issue" for anybody. Also arent newer M4's built by FNH and not colt? I know there are still a lot of colts in use. This post is a question and not meant to be anything other then me trying to learn.

11/30/2010 5:35:47 AM EDT
[#37]
For those of you giving insight on your gear and experiences, thank you.

For the others... Keep it constructive to the topic...


Anyone using the AN/PAS-13C(V)1 Thermal Sight? What other thermal sights are being issued currently for Army soldiers?

Thanks!

11/30/2010 5:39:51 AM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
I found somethings interesting on that poster listed. I never knew anybody was ever issued YHM suppressor? I had read some were bought/used (reportedly) but not "standard issue" for anybody. Also arent newer M4's built by FNH and not colt? I know there are still a lot of colts in use. This post is a question and not meant to be anything other then me trying to learn.



Yeah, others have pointed out that the poster is handy, but may not be completely in scope (it didn't stop me from getting one though). I thought the Army was still with Colt for the M4/M4A1 so I'm also interested in any feedback with this... especially if anything on the lower/upper receiver has changed.
11/30/2010 6:20:48 AM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
Quoted:

I ran across this the other day - https://www.evotactical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=105&products_id=338; it may be a handy reference.



There are a lot of things on that list that are not standard Army issue.  



This. There are so many variations. It depends on the unit/MOS.
11/30/2010 9:07:40 AM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Recently everyone in my unit has gotten brand new acog's and surefire m952v's. Some SOPMODS also. and those new 320 grenade launchers.


M320s? you a group guy? If not I didnt know big army was getting 320s


Big Army is fielding M320s now.  Needless to say, the conversion is not yet universal, expect to see the M203 around for a long time still, particularly with reserve and guard units.  However, the M320 is getting out there as well.  

Have not used one myself personally, but I've heard good and bad things about them.  They're definitely different than the venerable '203, though.

~Augee


I fired a 320 in Kuwait, while attached a to an M4. It was...interesting. Fun to shoot, I will say that!
11/30/2010 11:14:42 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
Quoted:

I ran across this the other day - https://www.evotactical.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=105&products_id=338; it may be a handy reference.



There are a lot of things on that list that are not standard Army issue.  



Yes, for example the Magpul UBR and every optic on that poster has a larue mount.
I personally mount all optics in Larue mounts, but it's not standard issue for the Army.
I'm pretty sure they aren't getting the beta C-Mags either.
11/30/2010 11:24:34 AM EDT
[#42]
lol our standard issue was an A2, we were allowed to purchase a certain brand gooseneck (i tihnk arms) and aimpoint comp M2 if we wanted.
11/30/2010 11:55:15 AM EDT
[#43]
Add an M203 and a VITAL 2 IR laser and this is exactly what I had in Iraq in 2005-2006. In 2003-2004 I had an M16A4 and just about everyone in my unit had the old Comp M M68 aimpoints.

11/30/2010 9:34:55 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
Add an M203 and a VITAL 2 IR laser and this is exactly what I had in Iraq in 2005-2006. In 2003-2004 I had an M16A4 and just about everyone in my unit had the old Comp M M68 aimpoints.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c29/DM1975/M4%20build/DSCF3489.jpg


Wow I didn't know those old school collapsible stocks were still in circulation.
Nice set up.
11/30/2010 10:30:14 PM EDT
[#45]
Still see several old collaspable stocks still here in Astan.  Seen one old alumium one on a USAF M4 last year in Bagram.

CD
11/30/2010 10:44:56 PM EDT
[#46]
All M4s and M4A1 Carbines that were manufactured as such were manufactured by Colt.  There is no such thing as a factory FNH M4 or M4A1, though a few have come out of ANAD with FN lowers and re-marked "M4 CARBINE."  

Several variations/generations of the AN/PAS-13 are currently in use by by Big Army, in light, medium, and heavy varieties.  

YHM suppressors have never been a "standard issue" item, though that is not to say that some unit somewhere may have purchased them and issued them.  As it stands there is no "standard" issue suppressor for conventional forces as suppressors do not exist on the MTOEs of standard units.  Again, that is not to say some conventional units do not possess, or have not issued suppressors.  

~Augee
11/30/2010 10:47:19 PM EDT
[#47]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Recently everyone in my unit has gotten brand new acog's and surefire m952v's. Some SOPMODS also. and those new 320 grenade launchers.




M320s? you a group guy? If not I didnt know big army was getting 320s
They're all over, and the are accurate as shit..





 
11/30/2010 10:49:59 PM EDT
[#48]



Quoted:


Interesting to note... I didn't think 320's would be issued yet... thank god they're going to rail-mountable grenade launchers.


It is standalone as well, comes with a retractable buttstock.  You can actually have an honest to god grenadier again.



 
12/1/2010 2:10:03 AM EDT
[#49]
It all depends what your job is and what type of unit you are in !
This is my issued M4, is a Colt M4 with Sopmod stock issued, surefire scout issued , acog, peq-15, supressor....the only thing that I added was the ergo grip and the Magpul grip.....oh and I got a crap ton of Pmags issued as well !
and I do have a H&K M-320 as well but I never mounted on my weapon I carry in separate with the stock and sling.



here is my 320.....



oh yeah.....I forgot, I have an issued M9 pistol too !!!
12/1/2010 5:49:50 AM EDT
[#50]
This is some great information, thank you!

Are there any electronic (rail) accessories that are non-standard (for the Army) but fairly common in field?

What type of (mounted) thermal sights are currently used with M4's?
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