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Posted: 8/31/2015 6:01:23 PM EDT
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I’m still on my quest to get an AR. I have come up with two other options that will use my Cabela’s cards.
First is a Colt CR6724 or CR6720. This is all Colt and has: 223/556 A2 stock and grip CR6724 24” Stainless barrel 1/9 CR6720 20” Stainless barrel 1/9 Two stage competition trigger 10 round mag Full float aluminum tube Cost is $1300 Second is a Remington R-15 Magpul. Here is how is comes: 223 only Moe stock, grip and for end in mossy oak prairie (also receiver) 18” .680 diameter barrel 1/9 ACC breakout compensator/ flash hider Two stage competition trigger 5 round mag Moe handgrip If I were to go with the second option I am not happy with the skinny barrel and the Moe hand guard. I would install a DPMS Mk 12 barrel (18”, 1/8, .223/5.56, threaded, M4 feed ramps, stainless steel with black finish, .750 gas block) and a matching MO prairie free float carbon fiber handguard from a DPMS Prairie Panther. Total cost is $1,075 I like option two as I have a Remington 870 and 700 that I like. But, there is something to be said about a genuine Colt... Any advice, thoughts? Again, this would be for plinking, shooting cans and zombies at 300 yards. Thanks, Bob |
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I just realized I can add a poll so I did.
I have not been to a store. I am in New Mexico and we do not have any. The closest are Lubbock, TX at 300 miles and Glendale, AZ at 450 miles. I have called the stores and talked to the staff. They were very limited on what they had in stock equipped with free floating hand guards. I think one had a Bushmaster Varminter and the other a Bushmaster Predator. I called several other store and it was the same thing. Then someone mentioned maybe I could special order a rifle which is what I am looking at now. You might say "If they don't have what you want, go somewhere else". Well, I would if I didn't have a $1,000 in Cabela's gift cards. Thanks to all that have posted. I'll add you in to the poll :) Thanks, -Bob |
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I just realized I can add a poll so I did. I have not been to a store. I am in New Mexico and we do not have any. The closest are Lubbock, TX at 300 miles and Glendale, AZ at 450 miles. I have called the stores and talked to the staff. They were very limited on what they had in stock equipped with free floating hand guards. I think one had a Bushmaster Varminter and the other a Bushmaster Predator. I called several other store and it was the same thing. Then someone mentioned maybe I could special order a rifle which is what I am looking at now. You might say "If they don't have what you want, go somewhere else". Well, I would if I didn't have a $1,000 in Cabela's gift cards. Thanks to all that have posted. I'll add you in to the poll :) Thanks, -Bob There's no gun shops in New Mexico? For real? 
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I just realized I can add a poll so I did. I have not been to a store. I am in New Mexico and we do not have any. The closest are Lubbock, TX at 300 miles and Glendale, AZ at 450 miles. I have called the stores and talked to the staff. They were very limited on what they had in stock equipped with free floating hand guards. I think one had a Bushmaster Varminter and the other a Bushmaster Predator. I called several other store and it was the same thing. Then someone mentioned maybe I could special order a rifle which is what I am looking at now. You might say "If they don't have what you want, go somewhere else". Well, I would if I didn't have a $1,000 in Cabela's gift cards. Thanks to all that have posted. I'll add you in to the poll :) Thanks, -Bob This is an interesting problem to have bob. I think more important that what you have looked at or how much you have is what you want to do with them. You mentioned a few longer barreled rifles and a desire for a free floated tube. Can you break down what you would like to do with the rifle, how much shooting experience you have and with what rifles and what you like about the rifles you have already mentioned. |
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I think 1:9 is weak for 300 yards...
The 1:8 would be better for heavier bullets that far...but I can't see buying then changing barrels, I would just buy what you want from the start. Colt has name but when it comes to ARs there are a ton of platforms out there the are equal to the task. I would buy a lower and build it with an A2 stock/parts kit then order the upper that you desire. Palmetto state has a lot of Labor Day sales coming up as well as Aim Surplus, Brownells...etc.. The two choices you have listed are basically Colt or a Remington badged DPMS rifle...and there is a lot of negative vibes here for DPMS rifles.... |
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"There's no gun shops in New Mexico? For real?"
Of course there are gun shops in New Mexico, but we are talking about Cabela's here. That is where the gift card is good at. My experience with firearms? Well other than M-16's in the Air Force, I have been a lever action guy. I've been building a collection of Marlins for 30 years. This would be my first black rifle. I don't want a carbine. I want to shoot at longer distances. If I wanted to shoot cans at close ranges I would take out my Marlin 1894 in 45 Long Colt and have a blast. It seems three things help shooting at ranges: a barrel made for it, a free float tube, and a good trigger. All the manufacturers say their stuff is the best, yada, yada. I am turning to the people with experience to tell me which is the better equipment. As far as using the Cabela's card for ammo and cash for the rifle, well I would have lot's of ammo and no gun to shoot :( Not unless I sold one or two of the Marlins to buy the rifle and I don't want to do that. Thanks, -Bob |
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"There's no gun shops in New Mexico? For real?" Of course there are gun shops in New Mexico, but we are talking about Cabela's here. That is where the gift card is good at. My experience with firearms? Well other than M-16's in the Air Force, I have been a lever action guy. I've been building a collection of Marlins for 30 years. This would be my first black rifle. I don't want a carbine. I want to shoot at longer distances. If I wanted to shoot cans at close ranges I would take out my Marlin 1894 in 45 Long Colt and have a blast. It seems three things help shooting at ranges: a barrel made for it, a free float tube, and a good trigger. All the manufacturers say their stuff is the best, yada, yada. I am turning to the people with experience to tell me which is the better equipment. As far as using the Cabela's card for ammo and cash for the rifle, well I would have lot's of ammo and no gun to shoot :( Not unless I sold one or two of the Marlins to buy the rifle and I don't want to do that. Thanks, -Bob Ok. With that the answer is none. The longer barrels aren't doing what you think they are going to do. You need to do a lot more research into what is really going to improve your ranges. You can get rifles in different chambers than 5.56 that will do a far better job at range. What you need is a good deal of research. |
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Forgot to say that I need my cash to buy the extra's :) Optics, bipod, magazines, case, etc and probably things I don't even know about yet. -Bob As posted above, you can use the gift cards for your needed accessories, and build the rifle you want instead of choosing from just a few factory models. Really, if 300 yards is as far as you ever plan to go, a 20+ inch barrel is overkill. A quality 16" barrel will easily suffice and be lighter and less expensive in most cases. If you really want to push that little 5.56 NATO round to its outer limits, then go with a 20" barrel. |
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IMHO.... given your three choices... Get the Colt 24"..... ( you can always get a different upper later, most do anyway.... but that is a sickness unto itself, Lol )
BUT.... only if it has standard .154 trigger group pins and .250 receiver pins. I realize the newest Colts don't have the .170" trigger and .316 receiver pins... but make sure to check. After a brief search on the Colts.... everyone says they have outstanding accuracy... and of those that sold theirs... they all said they regret doing so. I saw quite a few posts from people that said their 24" would shoot the 77gr and 75gr bullets great.... just not the 75gr AMAX I know a lot of people say Colt is overrated .... but that doesn't mean that it is bad, either. I have faith in Colt, as a matter of fact.. if they offered as many combinations as BCM, or even Daniel Defense... I would own more Colts. My 25+ year old Colt still works as good as the day I bought it... all I have replaced in it was the recoil spring ( with a flat wire Tubbs ) and the trigger with a Geissele... no other issues at all. I lost track a long time ago on round count. Say what you want about Colt's .... mine works very well. Colt will hold its value ... a very important thing to consider given the upcoming election. |
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How far do you plan on shooting? 100 yards? 300? 1000?
You would know best how you're going to use it. Sounds like you're in the bench shooting age bracket. 
20" is overkill at 300, though it won't hurt. If you plan on hunting with it or carrying it, I would go for 16 inches. Barrel length doesn't mean it's going to be more accurate. |
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After looking at the Cabela's website, they have a lot of choices, unfortunately they do not sell firearms via the webstore shipped to your FFL...you have to buy it in-person.
They do, however, sell a LOT of parts and accessories online, virtually everything but a stripped lower can be had there, even a few barrels and complete uppers. So you could possibly build most of a rifle via Cabela's, just buy your lower elsewhere. Start with this lower shipped to your local FFL... http://www.schuylerarmsco.com/product.ar15-stripped-lower-receiver-gen-2-anodized-black-993 |
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"After looking at the Cabela's website, they have a lot of choices, unfortunately they do not sell firearms via the webstore shipped to your FFL...you have to buy it in-person."
You have to call the store and make the purchase over the phone. They will ship it to your FFL. I've previously purchased two rifles from them that way and now I've purchased a third. -Bob |
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"After looking at the Cabela's website, they have a lot of choices, unfortunately they do not sell firearms via the webstore shipped to your FFL...you have to buy it in-person." You have to call the store and make the purchase over the phone. They will ship it to your FFL. I've previously purchased two rifles from them that way and now I've purchased a third. -Bob Cool, then the OP has a LOT of choices listed there. |
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"Which one did you decide on?"
I sorta followed the results of the survey and ordered the Colt. I say sorta because instead of the 20" that got the most votes on the poll I went with the 24". I think I mentioned that I have a collection of Marlin Lever actions and I like the rifles with the longer barrels much better than the shorter ones, so that's why I went with the 24". I don't think I will be carting it around and besides, it only weighs 1/4 pound more than the 20" version. Also, I read many postings from people (not product reviews from professionals) who have the same rifle and they all just love the way it shoots and they say it balances very easily. I did not read even one negative review from anyone that has one. I will say that I am really surprised the Remington got so few votes. There are so many people here saying to build one, I thought they would embrace the idea of installing a different barrel on an existing platform to reconfigure it to my wants. I didn't shoose the Remington because the reviews are very mixed and I just wasn't to confident that I wouldn't run into unforeseen problems with the barrel change. So now I wait for the store to receive the rifle from the distributer and then for them to ship it to me. It should take a few weeks. Thanks for all the thoughts and votes on the poll, -Bob George |
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