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Posted: 9/24/2012 1:36:43 PM EDT
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I just got a 601 and I'm tearing it down to replace a few things including the buffer tube. For some unknown reason the stock is stuck and will not come loose. The screw is out and the stock should slide free but, its hanging on like its been epoxied on. I asked the seller if he glued the stock on or something and he said no.
Any thoughts on how to get this thing apart without destroying the stock?? I'm baffled. I'm considering putting it in the freezer for a few hours and whacking it with a hammer to break loose any possible glue or paint that could be holding it on. |
| NOT COLD!!! that would shrink the stock. Try putting ice cubes in the lower receiver extension to chill and contract it, and heat the stock under very hot (not boiling) water. I used thisd method once, and it worked. If you can get it up past the lug that engages the receiver, twist it clockwise as you pull. |
| if you have an action block, seat the lower in that. then take a piece of scrap 2x4 and seat it against the sling swivel. then proceed to hammer on it until the stock gets free. i haven't heard of a stock being attached to the tube via adhesive but i have seen 2 stocks now that had loctite or rockset used on the buffer tube threads to the lower. now that was a pain to remove. |
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Be careful, use a lot of light taps as opposed to brute force. Maybe if its on a origanal tube with the holes, some foam is protruding inwards through them making it stubborn. Ice cubes in the buffer tube and a hair dryer on the stock along the top might help..
Brent |
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I bought a load of stocks one time that had been unscrewed from receiver and still had buffer tube and butt stock screw intact. I'm guessing because the armorers either didn't know what they were doing or were on a time schedule. The screws were way to tight IMO. Once I finally got the screws out and they got scratched up even more by me (but the armorers really chewed them up). Wasn't much left to grab hold of and it took some real rump to dislodge.
I was then able to install the stock and buffer tube in a receiver using a homemade clam shell (wood) in a vise. Then I unscrewed the stock from the tube turning clockwise once tube was tight in receiver. Want to be careful here and not strip anything. Really didn't take much force and once I got it to spin it came right off. Nothing was 601 or early tube unfortunately. Were some pretty nice Colt buffer tubes and got them for surplus stock coins. I'm thinking just a little crud and dried grease is holding it. Could be glue if they replaced the buttpad and used the screw to hold it down but it shouldn't have spread to the tube area. Was the screw a drain hole or non drain. Was a reason they switched those out although later than 601. Good luck. |
| If you can find a way to hose some PB Blaster in between the tube and the inside of the stock, that may work. Either through the screw hole or receiver end, and let it sit overnight. I used it once to remove a stuck rusted sling swivel stud from a type C stock and it worked brilliantly. |
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Thanks for all the opinions and advice.
I'll give it another whack tomorrow. I'll try some ice cubes in the tube and hot water. This one really has me scratching my head. Just to clarify, the receiver extension is still attached to the lower. The screw for the stock came right out with no problem. The stock is painted but I can't hardly imagine that a bit of paint contacting the lower would have that much holding power. |
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Well I got the stock off. Tried freezing over night and some light tapping, no luck. Them I heated up some water on the stove and let it soak, no luck. So I vised it up and with drift and hammer tapped and the rear sling swivel, no luck. Well, it took a bit more than "tappin"g to get the stock to budge...unfortunately the stock gave up the ghost in the process. It looks like the previous owner painted the tube and them installed the stock, essentially gluing them together. I'm not too upset about the stock, it was showing wear and I've already been talking to JT about doing a fresh set of 601 furniture.
What should have been a 2 minute job stretched into a 2-day ordeal, thats about par for the course sometimes. Whats the old saying? Sh*t happens... |
| I guess it's a safe assumption since buffer was painted that nothing was actually 601 on that end. Many times we get what we pay for. Sounds like an easy enough replacement. Wonder what they painted it with and why? One thing to paint what's visible on a clone for lack of searching or paying for something more authentic. Oh well wishing you the best of it from here on. |
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Thankfully the stock was just a type D, so no sweat. The buffer tube is a modern one that was naval jellied, I plan to replace it with an gray anodized tube I have.
I'm going to epoxy the broken stock back together and throw the set on the EE. It ought to work perfect for someone's battlefield pickup 601... For now I'm going to swap the flash hider and add some black furniture and she'll slum it as a 602 until I gather together a set of donor furniture for JT to work his magic on. Not that I wouldn't mind finding a real type A stock or 601 furniture... |
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