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Posted: 4/10/2012 6:25:08 PM EDT
| Just bought a new Remington R-15 VTR the other day, and today when I got it out to familiarize myself with it, I could not get my takedown nor pivot pins to budge. I tried my finger but that did absolutely nothing. Grabbed a hard piece of plastic that came in the gun's chamber and tried to put that against the pins and utilized the butt of my bowie knife as a hammer, and I tried to do the same thing but with a belt buckle instead of the piece of plastic. None of these had any sort of effect on the pins. Do I need to try an actual hammer? All of the videos of people breaking down their rifles that I've seen have just used their fingers to push and then pull the pins out. Can anybody help me resolve this? |
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Sometimes on new guns the pins are tight, or there is some type of preservative that has varnished the pins making them tight, or a combination of both. Try using a punch on the rear takedown pin on the left side, and give the punch a few taps from a hammer, it should move the pin. If necessary you can use some type of solvent or thin lubricating oil to break up any gummy preserving lubricant that may be on there, once you get the pins pushed out inspect them for the dried varnish looking preservative an if you see some then I recommend cleaning it off thoroughly. Once the pins have been pushed in and out a few times, they will get easier.
CY6 Greg Sullivan "Sully" SLR15 Rifles TheDefensiveEdge.com (763) 712-0123 |
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Just bought a new Remington R-15 VTR the other day, and today when I got it out to familiarize myself with it, I could not get my takedown nor pivot pins to budge. I tried my finger but that did absolutely nothing. Grabbed a hard piece of plastic that came in the gun's chamber and tried to put that against the pins and utilized the butt of my bowie knife as a hammer, and I tried to do the same thing but with a belt buckle instead of the piece of plastic. None of these had any sort of effect on the pins. Do I need to try an actual hammer? All of the videos of people breaking down their rifles that I've seen have just used their fingers to push and then pull the pins out. Can anybody help me resolve this? Someone, HELP http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_8/8_Texas.html |
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Best advice, use a golf tee as the punch!!!!
The golf tee will disintegrate before you can do any damage if the take down pin will not budge. And if that happens, then it's time to start pulling parts to take the detent pressure off the take down pins to figure out if you have "Real Problem" at hand, over just the pins being new and stiff. |
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Well, I tried a golf tee and rubber mallet today, and the tip of the tee flattened down and snapped on the third tap. Also tried to use pen with the top taken off and that seemed to move it just a fraction of an inch, but then no more.
Any other suggestions? I'm worried using a punch may cause damage |
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Call Remington. I would squeeze the upper and lower together with one hand and give the takedown pin a whack with a plastic head hammer. If it did not move under those circumstances I would consider it a warranty issue. Yep, since needing more force that what would crack a golf tee is going to end with the take down detents just cracking through the side wall of the receiver if you continue try try to drive the take down pins over, instead of the point of the detent slipping out of the take down detent dent instead to allow the pin to slip over. Back take down pin detent is retained by the the front of the butt stock/butt stock plate in a telescoping stock, and the front take down pin detent is in the small Humped part of the receiver. Parts 10, 
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You have done everything that is reasonable to do on a weapon from a major manufacturer that is new.
I have no doubt the weapon can be taken apart, but I can’t see going any further with a warranty in play. I guess I am going to be a little more hard core about checking weapons I am buying before walking out the door at the dealer. |
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Just to make sure, you are trying to push the rear takedown pin and front pivot out out from left to right?
CY6 Greg Sullivan "Sully" SLR15 Rifles TheDefensiveEdge.com (763) 712-0123 |
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When the lower receiver assembly is separate from the upper receiver assembly, try pushing the rear take down pin and front pivot pin back and forth (in and out) of the lower receiver. They should move with little resistance, and will give more resistance when fully in or out due to a small recess in the detent track of the pin. You can also put a drop of gun lube in the detent track of the pins. If the pins move back and forth without the upper receiver assembly on top, but are tight and require you hammer them in/out when the upper receiver assembly is mated on top, then what you most likely have is a stacking tolerance of the fit between the upper/lower receiver or possibly tight pin holes in the upper receiver.
CY6 Greg Sullivan "Sully" SLR15 Rifles TheDefensiveEdge.com (763) 712-0123 |
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