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1/16/2012 8:43:02 AM EDT
Had a problem yesterday.

First time I have ever had this happen.

Right off the bat I had a tough time getting the rounds to chamber.

Tried several rounds until finally it went all the in and I fired the gun.

It was VERY loud when it went of and the magazine blew up.

The extractor is broken.

Now I cannot get the stuck case out the chamber.












1/16/2012 8:47:29 AM EDT
[#1]
Type of ammo?
1/16/2012 8:49:03 AM EDT
[#2]



Quoted:


Type of ammo?


oops.

Herters steel can ammo.



 
1/16/2012 9:00:20 AM EDT
[#3]
Can you read the headstamp still?
1/16/2012 9:05:30 AM EDT
[#4]
Try a 40cal cleaning brush.  insert on a rod, and pull out the case



eta:  or one of these if you have another extractor
1/16/2012 9:15:35 AM EDT
[#5]
Yikes.... I guess the moral of the story is that if the rounds don't chamber..... Maybe look into the problem before proceding.   Good luck, glad there were no injuries.
1/16/2012 9:21:04 AM EDT
[#6]
Id be talking to ammo manufacturer
1/16/2012 9:22:02 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Type of ammo?

oops.
Herters steel can ammo.
 


Is that Herters steel case ammo or steel can ammo? It looks like you have a broken brass casing in your chamber and in the pic next to your bolt. Herters is steel case, not brass. Unless Herters is selling brass now, I think you are mistaken on what ammo you were using.
Is your bore clear or is there a stove-piped round in your barrel? I know it sounds far-fetched, but do you own ammo in a caliber other than 5.56, that with a bit of effort could have been forced into battery on your AR? Is there any way that you already had a stove-piped round in there? Having trouble chambering  a round and then having it blow when you do get one chambered, combined with the apparent fact that you were not in-fact using Herters ammo, sounds like there may be something more at work here than a standard case-head seperation.
just my .02
1/16/2012 9:38:33 AM EDT
[#8]
Looks to me the chamber was pretty dirty to begin with, the rounds were not chambering properly, preassure - kaboom!
1/16/2012 2:02:23 PM EDT
[#9]
Is that you in your avatar?
1/16/2012 2:22:45 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Is that you in your avatar?


I hope if any of my guns kaboom I don't end up looking like that.
1/16/2012 2:41:42 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Looks to me the chamber was pretty dirty to begin with, the rounds were not chambering properly, preassure - kaboom!


?  check out bcm filthy 14.   40,000 rounds no cleaning... still going no kB.    Bulllet set back??  If you have some rounds that you tried to chamber and ejected, see if you can measure the over all length and compare to unchambered.






1/16/2012 2:42:14 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Looks to me the chamber was pretty dirty to begin with, the rounds were not chambering properly, preassure - kaboom!


If that's a dirty chamber than all my rifles should be blowing up
1/16/2012 2:46:41 PM EDT
[#13]
That chamber isn't dirty at all....
1/16/2012 3:08:12 PM EDT
[#14]
it looks so dirty it almost looks clean
1/16/2012 3:26:58 PM EDT
[#15]
Wow that stinks!  Glad you are OK after the fireworks.  I do not feel that chamber is real dirty by any means.  I was just wondering where your gas tube went?
1/16/2012 3:34:09 PM EDT
[#16]



Quoted:


Looks to me the chamber was pretty dirty to begin with, the rounds were not chambering properly, preassure - kaboom!


thats a dirty chamber?



 
1/16/2012 4:26:20 PM EDT
[#17]
OP glad your OK!

Based on the photo's me thinks a stuck case is probably the least part of your issues.

Have your checked your lower receiver round the mag well for cracks?

What happened to your gas tube?

Hope I'm wrong, but looks like the last rodeo for that rifle.

Relatively vague in your initial description, but sounds like bullet got pulled when trying to chamber a round and the projectile stuck in the bore.  When you finally got one to chamber behind it, well there ya go.

Herter's stuff has always seemed to run on the large side in my experience.  I can see this happening.

Let us know what you find.

Again, glad your ok.
1/16/2012 4:29:10 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Looks to me the chamber was pretty dirty to begin with, the rounds were not chambering properly, preassure - kaboom!


?  check out bcm filthy 14.   40,000 rounds no cleaning... still going no kB.    Bulllet set back??  If you have some rounds that you tried to chamber and ejected, see if you can measure the over all length and compare to unchambered.

https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRfGZNBwNYOcBFazVR8bSCSvyB0kpxZJa4FMuXfECc8AdB1zCQExA






It has been my understanding that bullet set back causes increased pressure in pistol rounds.  However in bottleneck rifle rounds such as .223 bullet setback will actually decrease pressure.  

Now I think that applies to regular seating depths.  Idk if dramatic setback does or doesn't.
1/16/2012 4:29:40 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Looks to me the chamber was pretty dirty to begin with, the rounds were not chambering properly, preassure - kaboom!


Then everyone who has shot more than 5 rounds is going to get a KB. That chamber looks cleaner than every AR I have
1/16/2012 5:22:46 PM EDT
[#20]
You would need a broken case extractor. It is a cheap item.
1/17/2012 1:30:58 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
You would need a broken case extractor. It is a cheap item.


op is gonna need a bolt if a case extractor is to be use.......his bolt is is trashed...
1/17/2012 1:38:05 PM EDT
[#22]
Go buy a broken shell remover.  It's designed to remove stuck cases that have had their heads ripped off (which looks to be the case here).

They are not that expensive and I suggest everyone should have one in their range box for 'just in case'.
1/17/2012 2:15:45 PM EDT
[#23]
Did you use the forward asset to force the cartridge into battery?

When the second round did not chamber properly just wondering why did you not inspect to see if a problem existed?
1/17/2012 3:08:50 PM EDT
[#24]
Let me guess .......as was said above....FORWARD ASSIST  TO CHAMBER ROUND?  I watched a guy, one day at the range beat on his forward assist everytime he tried to chamber a round with a clean gun and questionable ammo.  Never saw a good outcome when a forward assist was needed.  The one and only time I thought I needed to use a forward assist I got the round chambered then ripped the casehead off with my extractor when I fired.  Round was out if spec., the whole box.  So if a round will not chamber and there's not imminant danger of death or worse......drop the mag and remove the round.  Screw the forward assist.
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