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4/8/2017 9:33:03 PM EDT
13 grains of 8208 in Hornady brass, CCI 450 Primer and 160 grain RN Hornady bullets. It's too windy to get my chronograph out but definitely sub. Kinda fun.
4/8/2017 9:50:40 PM EDT
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Wouldn't flashover be a  concern?
4/9/2017 10:50:13 AM EDT
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What's flashover?
4/9/2017 11:24:03 AM EDT
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The 160 grain Round Nose bullet looks really long, I bet it protrudes really deep into the 6.5 Grendel case.  This has got to reduce the case capacity of the available case volume and hopefully limits the chance of a flash over (explosion where all powder is ignited to quickly).
4/9/2017 2:11:04 PM EDT
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Which last I read had never been able to be replicated, and is very likely an excuse used when people improperly reload ammo.

That said, Trail Boss is an extremely good choice when trying to create lighter than normal loadings (which is what is was made for), to include subsonics. 9-10grs in .308 is perfectly acceptable and generates ~1000FPS with just about any bullet you like. It takes up a massive amount of volume but weighs next to nothing.

http://www.imrpowder.com/PDF/Trail-Boss-data.pdf
4/9/2017 2:43:30 PM EDT
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Dudes have been loading subsonic Grendel for years with 140-160gr projectiles.

It just isn't hyped as much.
4/10/2017 9:31:23 PM EDT
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I'm guessing the AA 1:7.5 twist barrel will stabilize those heavy projectiles?
4/11/2017 6:53:02 PM EDT
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I'm shooting a Lilja 1:8. Tested some on paper before using suppressor.
4/11/2017 6:56:50 PM EDT
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Does it cycle the gun?
4/11/2017 7:01:34 PM EDT
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Secondary explosion effect caused by use of heavily-reduced charges in rifle cartridges. It seems to cause a pressure wave or something, and often causes kabooms.
4/11/2017 7:14:18 PM EDT
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I think it has more to do with the surface area of the powder exposed to the burn.  In a normal case the column of powder burns from the primer flash hole on up and is burning as the projectile is going down the barrel.  What is still burning at the end can sometimes make for a spectacular muzzle flash.

What I've read and heard about the risks of really light loads is that rather than a column of powder burning in a controlled manner, you get a lot of the powder burning all at once in the case and causing what is more or less an explosion vs. a burn, which is what generates the big pressure wave you are taking about.

I don't have a Grendel so don't know the case dimensions off hand.  But if you think about a .308 that is probably close, at the base of the case you have essentially a ID of around .40" and a column of powder maybe 1.5" tall.   The .40" at the bottom is the exposed surface area that is going to ignite and burn its way up the column (grossly over simplified since the column starts travelling down the barrel).   If you filled the case to where when on its side it was say 1/2 full of powder, you now have a 1.5" x .4" surface of powder that could start burning all at once.

Like was said above, I don't know if it has or can be replicated in test conditions, but the theory does make sense.
4/11/2017 10:26:56 PM EDT
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Anyone?
4/12/2017 9:06:21 AM EDT
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Yes it does. 11.5" barrel with Omega and an Anderson adjustable gas block all the way open.
4/12/2017 1:25:49 PM EDT
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6.5 Grendel Subsonic Suppressed
4/12/2017 4:44:30 PM EDT
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4/12/2017 6:19:52 PM EDT
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4/13/2017 2:45:09 PM EDT
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LRRPF52 what powder and bullet were you using?
4/13/2017 5:19:47 PM EDT
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That's not me.

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Finally got my suppressor in and took it out to try with the subsonic loads I made up. Not sure what is up with the audio and my second camera died but you can still tell that the bullet impacting an old propane tank 75 yards downrange is louder then the rifle.
PPU 7.62x39 Brass, non-fireformed
Hornady 160gr RN
CCI Magnum Large Rifle Primers
IMR8208 powder, I will not share exact load data but when working with Subsonics start on the high side and work down so you don't stick a bullet in the barrel.
4/14/2017 6:04:21 AM EDT
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Cool, but why?  

I suppose if you're into 6.5 but don't have .300, and you have suppressors...
4/14/2017 10:51:19 AM EDT
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I tend to agree with this, but it's based on no personal experience with the 6.5G.  I've been interested in the 6.5G, but it's been from a high velocity, longer range, AR15 platform round.  It seems to me that most all subsonic, suppressed bullets kill with energy and not velocity...so...it strikes me that you want to lob as heavy a bullet as you can within that 950-1050 fps window.  Then you take into account the super short barrel that a 300BO effectively uses to lob that 200-230g bullet downrange, and it just makes 300BO a very logical platform to choose...and why I went with it.  Not dissin' 6.5G, but I'd think subsonic, suppressed isn't 6.5G's area of expertise.  However, the beauty of reloading allows one to play with whatever ammo they can get to work with the gun they have on hand.  Nothing wrong with that.
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