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Posted: 2/20/2010 6:38:37 PM EDT
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Is there a LED conversion for the 9p? If so, who makes it?
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right under your nose this head with the adapter should get you around 600 lumens and be of good quality.
See TNVC post below. |
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Cops (I'm one) love malkoff because it is a bulletproof drop in light to your Surefire 6 or 9P. Malkoffdevices.com Oh by the way, the lumens listed by Malkoff are actual out the front and not the usual bogus numbers put out by the Chinese made crap that's sold here. You can buy several times, or just buy a Malkoff and be done. (Until you buy more, it's like crack, be forewarned). LOL |
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right under your nose this head with the adapter should get you around 600 lumens and be of good quality. The 600 lumen version is actually HERE.  Thank you.
Vic |
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right under your nose this head with the adapter should get you around 600 lumens and be of good quality. The 600 lumen version is actually HERE. Thank you.
Vic Vic, I'm from Missouri, so why don't you show me 600 lumens. I wish flashlight sales would use some industry agreed format. Using emitter is dishonest advertising when others use out the front. (EDIT: I checked your webpage, and it shows emitter.) If you really believe in 600 lumens why don't you send one of your lights over to bigchellis at candlepower forums. He's got a 10.5 in sphere and is doing actual lumen testing/publishing. He's done a bunch, few dozen different lights, how many lumens, for how long, type of LED etc. Maybe your stuff is 600 lumens out the front, but I doubt it. Send one for evaluation. I don't know chellis, but he appears to be an honest guy doing the light collector group a big favor. I also doubt that MCE using CR123 are going to be putting out anywhere near 600 lumens. I'd guess more like 300+ out the front, and only for a second or two. LED's are great, and I think our soldiers need better equipment, but if they're buying it with their own money, it should be apples/apples, not oranges. 1SG, USA, Ret |
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right under your nose this head with the adapter should get you around 600 lumens and be of good quality. The 600 lumen version is actually HERE. Thank you.
Vic That is bad ass, that's what I want. So what adapter do I need. My light was assembled by Calvin at Brightflashlights years ago, its a 9p body, with tail cap, and it has a aggressive bezel from some other Surefire, I'm not quite sure which one. |
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Vic, I'm from Missouri, so why don't you show me 600 lumens. I wish flashlight sales would use some industry agreed format. Using emitter is dishonest advertising when others use out the front. (EDIT: I checked your webpage, and it shows emitter.) If you really believe in 600 lumens why don't you send one of your lights over to bigchellis at candlepower forums. He's got a 10.5 in sphere and is doing actual lumen testing/publishing. He's done a bunch, few dozen different lights, how many lumens, for how long, type of LED etc. Maybe your stuff is 600 lumens out the front, but I doubt it. Send one for evaluation. I don't know chellis, but he appears to be an honest guy doing the light collector group a big favor. I also doubt that MCE using CR123 are going to be putting out anywhere near 600 lumens. I'd guess more like 300+ out the front, and only for a second or two. LED's are great, and I think our soldiers need better equipment, but if they're buying it with their own money, it should be apples/apples, not oranges. 1SG, USA, Ret There is nothing dishonest about it IMO. If a buyer reads up on flashlight output he observes very quickly that most of the flashlight makers use estimated emitter lumens in their advertising, which are pretty high. Anyone that spends an hour reading about this stuff can easily deduce that there will be losses in the reflector and the front lens, depending on the actual design of the light. Surefires advertised lumens are always low, and are really just as useless when trying to compare their lights to anyone elses. They consistently measure higher than advertised in integrating spheres. Besides, measured lumens doesn't tell the whole story about a lights performance. For instance if you want a long distance *thrower* that will light up objects 100 yards away then you'll be looking for a light with a high LUX reading. A good comparison of this would be a Deereelight DBS vs any P60 light. You can have one of each that both have 250 OTF lumens, but the DBS will throw much farther due to its higher LUX reading. A flashlights LUX readings are highly dependent on the reflector being used. There are so many reflectors on the market in all of the different lights being sold that there is really no way to standardize output based on out the front lumens or LUX because of the wide variance of reflectors. That is why most light makers state emitter lumens. If someone wants to dig deeper he can find info on most any light from guys on candlepowerforums that measure lumens with an integrating sphere. EDIT: One really informative aspect about knowing emitter lumens is that you can extrapolate which flux bin LED you are getting. For instance, with the Cree MC-E LED's, they have a K bin, which puts out 370 lumens at 350ma per die (1400ma total), and also a brighter M bin that has 420 lumens at the same current. TNVC doesn't state in the ad what current they are using, so it is impossible to know which flux bin it is. But if they did state the current they are using to achieve 730 emitter lumens, we could figure out exactly which flux bin emitter, K or M, that they are using. We would be hard pressed to do that dealing with out the front numbers. |
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