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Posted: 5/14/2011 1:22:19 PM EDT
| I bumped into a friend the other day and he was telling me about his new AR he put togther.Tapco stock,grip,mags ect....He's not on ARF(yet)so doesn't know a lot about them yet.I was gonna tell him to sell that stuff for "better" upgrades.My question is,is the quality that bad or is it decent for the price???Most people pick on the brand,i've never owned any of it.Just curious. |
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Quoted: I bumped into a friend the other day and he was telling me about his new AR he put togther.Tapco stock,grip,mags ect....He's not on ARF(yet)so doesn't know a lot about them yet.I was gonna tell him to sell that stuff for "better" upgrades.My question is,is the quality that bad or is it decent for the price???Most people pick on the brand,i've never owned any of it.Just curious. They are site sponsors. Most of their stuff works. |
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Edit- apparently euphamisms are lost on the Saturday evening crowd.
TAPCO stuff is clunky and heavier than most other accessories. It's cheap for a reason. It is American made but so are a great deal of other accessory makers. That said their AK G2 trigger is a great accessory for any AK owner. Beyond that, I've found their products not to be of the same standard of other manufacturers. It's probably perfectly acceptable for the average shooter that wants a "cool" appearing gun and will not be exposing their weapons to anything other than the infrequent trip to the range. "MIL-SPEC" is a goofy ass term anyway but the popular gun culture uses it denote those things which can be found on the modern battlefield and not it's true definition. |
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What the hell do those last two posts mean? Any valid input. Any experience with their stuff?
Mil spec accessories? Shows that the ARFCOM bug affects those heavily who have no clue what their talking about. I may not have anything tapco on my rifle, but my experience with their ak stuff, even mags wouldn't stop me from trying. |
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I must unfortunatly agree that Tapco is not high quality. I bought one of their six position carbine stocks, it has failed twice now. The first failure was the pin that locks the stock body to the extension tube. I was performing a "Drop" test on a trigger job, part of the standard safety testing one should always perform after installing/working on a trigger. Anyway, a 6-10 inch drop onto a padded surface to test the sear engagement. The pin snapped in half. Tapcos customer service was first class. They sent me a complete new stock, free, only asking that I send them back the old one for examination. I was happy. Things happen. I have no complaint about the fit or function of the stock itself, it works fine for me.
The second malfuntion occured recently, at my last range session. While on the bench, firing, my rifle jammed. IT is an ARmilite, it has never jammed. The bolt was jammed in the rear, not on a round. After some banging and manipulating, I managed to free it and break it open. as soon as I did, the buffer tube spring and detent luanched into the grass in front of the bench. Examination revealed that the detent had worked through the buffer tube. Drilled a hole right through. This is unnacceptable to me. The extension tube metal apparentley is too soft to stand up to the detent. I was able to recover the parts, and thanks to having tools with me, retun the rifle to function and continue shooting by screwing the tube in another turn. I am aquiring the parts to switch to a fixed stock .I built the rifle in 2008, did the trigger and replaced the stock in October of that year. I had not intended to post about this until I had an opportunity to notify Tapco and take some pictures, but the OP asked the question, and I felt like it was relevent. I am not asking for a response from Tapco, I am no longer concerned. Their product has spoken for them, at least to me. |
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Quoted: I must unfortunatly agree that Tapco is not high quality. I bought one of their six position carbine stocks, it has failed twice now. The first failure was the pin that locks the stock body to the extension tube. I was performing a "Drop" test on a trigger job, part of the standard safety testing one should always perform after installing/working on a trigger. Anyway, a 6-10 inch drop onto a padded surface to test the sear engagement. The pin snapped in half. Tapcos customer service was first class. They sent me a complete new stock, free, only asking that I send them back the old one for examination. I was happy. Things happen. I have no complaint about the fit or function of the stock itself, it works fine for me. The second malfuntion occured recently, at my last range session. While on the bench, firing, my rifle jammed. IT is an ARmilite, it has never jammed. The bolt was jammed in the rear, not on a round. After some banging and manipulating, I managed to free it and break it open. as soon as I did, the buffer tube spring and detent luanched into the grass in front of the bench. Examination revealed that the detent had worked through the buffer tube. Drilled a hole right through. This is unnacceptable to me. The extension tube metal apparentley is too soft to stand up to the detent. I was able to recover the parts, and thanks to having tools with me, retun the rifle to function and continue shooting by screwing the tube in another turn. I am aquiring the parts to switch to a fixed stock .I built the rifle in 2008, did the trigger and replaced the stock in October of that year. I had not intended to post about this until I had an opportunity to notify Tapco and take some pictures, but the OP asked the question, and I felt like it was relevent. I am not asking for a response from Tapco, I am no longer concerned. Their product has spoken for them, at least to me. Losing the buffer detent and spring occurs more than you think. You can shoot the carbine w/o having either the detent and spring in the lower. How did you turn the extenstion in another turn if the end plate was staked into the extension nut? |
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I had an issue with a Vertical front grip screw stripping out while on my M&P. It was completely my fault.
I contacted Tapco and they said that it sometimes happens and that they sent me a calltag for it and advised they would send me a new one upon receipt of the old grip. I couldn't get it off, so they said to return the upper or rail and they would take it off or cut it off and put the new one on. First class customer service in my opinion but as a previous poster stated, it isn't milspec. |
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I must unfortunatly agree that Tapco is not high quality. I bought one of their six position carbine stocks, it has failed twice now. The first failure was the pin that locks the stock body to the extension tube. I was performing a "Drop" test on a trigger job, part of the standard safety testing one should always perform after installing/working on a trigger. Anyway, a 6-10 inch drop onto a padded surface to test the sear engagement. The pin snapped in half. Tapcos customer service was first class. They sent me a complete new stock, free, only asking that I send them back the old one for examination. I was happy. Things happen. I have no complaint about the fit or function of the stock itself, it works fine for me. The second malfuntion occured recently, at my last range session. While on the bench, firing, my rifle jammed. IT is an ARmilite, it has never jammed. The bolt was jammed in the rear, not on a round. After some banging and manipulating, I managed to free it and break it open. as soon as I did, the buffer tube spring and detent luanched into the grass in front of the bench. Examination revealed that the detent had worked through the buffer tube. Drilled a hole right through. This is unnacceptable to me. The extension tube metal apparentley is too soft to stand up to the detent. I was able to recover the parts, and thanks to having tools with me, retun the rifle to function and continue shooting by screwing the tube in another turn. I am aquiring the parts to switch to a fixed stock .I built the rifle in 2008, did the trigger and replaced the stock in October of that year. I had not intended to post about this until I had an opportunity to notify Tapco and take some pictures, but the OP asked the question, and I felt like it was relevent. I am not asking for a response from Tapco, I am no longer concerned. Their product has spoken for them, at least to me. Losing the buffer detent and spring occurs more than you think. You can shoot the carbine w/o having either the detent and spring in the lower. How did you turn the extenstion in another turn if the end plate was staked into the extension nut? if you could just turn the buffer tube at the range im gonna go with you shot it loose maybe? imo a buffer tube shouldnt be that easy to just turn |
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Meh...I've used Tapco stuff on virtually all of my AK (Saiga) builds, and that includes furniture and internals. Their triggers (G2) are phenomenal.
I also used their PG/stubby VG on an AR I used to own. Nothing wrong with either. It's not Magpul, so of course ARFCOM is going to tell you it totally sucks. IMO, they're hit and miss. Some parts are great, some just aren't. |
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what the hell is milspec? colt m4 stocks and ras handguards? if thats milspec, i don't wanna be +1 Has anyone noticed we are talking about "Milspec" plastic...  Tell him to run it, and just keep showing off your Magpul stuff and pointing out other superior brands until he has the itch to upgrade. It won't take long.
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I must unfortunatly agree that Tapco is not high quality. I bought one of their six position carbine stocks, it has failed twice now. The first failure was the pin that locks the stock body to the extension tube. I was performing a "Drop" test on a trigger job, part of the standard safety testing one should always perform after installing/working on a trigger. Anyway, a 6-10 inch drop onto a padded surface to test the sear engagement. The pin snapped in half. Tapcos customer service was first class. They sent me a complete new stock, free, only asking that I send them back the old one for examination. I was happy. Things happen. I have no complaint about the fit or function of the stock itself, it works fine for me. The second malfuntion occured recently, at my last range session. While on the bench, firing, my rifle jammed. IT is an ARmilite, it has never jammed. The bolt was jammed in the rear, not on a round. After some banging and manipulating, I managed to free it and break it open. as soon as I did, the buffer tube spring and detent luanched into the grass in front of the bench. Examination revealed that the detent had worked through the buffer tube. Drilled a hole right through. This is unnacceptable to me. The extension tube metal apparentley is too soft to stand up to the detent. I was able to recover the parts, and thanks to having tools with me, retun the rifle to function and continue shooting by screwing the tube in another turn. I am aquiring the parts to switch to a fixed stock .I built the rifle in 2008, did the trigger and replaced the stock in October of that year. I had not intended to post about this until I had an opportunity to notify Tapco and take some pictures, but the OP asked the question, and I felt like it was relevent. I am not asking for a response from Tapco, I am no longer concerned. Their product has spoken for them, at least to me. I have not done any testing on my T-6 stocks like yours, but I had two wolf cases get stuck a few years ago in a rifle with a tapco stock. In order to get the case out I pulled the charging handle down slightly and slammed the stock down as hard as I could on concrete to get the case to eject. It worked. After it happened twice I cleaned the chamber, continued shooting with no problems but the fact it didnt shatter impressed me. YMMV. |
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Back in the day, tapco started off doing a lot of good for us. They worked with the importers finding what kits were coming and they used their best intuition to balance the needs with the tools/parts and the "dreaded required US parts" They used their enginuity (and their bank-roll) to be a player in the booming asian black-gun imports.
I ordered many FN-FAL kits and parts and even swang by their shop to meet the good folks there. Had a good time and met guys/gals that are still friends. Their goal always must be money (profit), or the lights go out. Their goals and inguinity often were met less than enthusiastically with us buyers (some stuff was crap). Overall, I have considered they do a lot for us. While I do not like a lot of their items, many I do still use. A lot of their FNFAL stuff is not for me, as is much of their AK stuff, but they do still put out a lot of good kit. And they are nice folks 
I left mil-spec out (for a reason)
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I must unfortunatly agree that Tapco is not high quality. I bought one of their six position carbine stocks, it has failed twice now. The first failure was the pin that locks the stock body to the extension tube. I was performing a "Drop" test on a trigger job, part of the standard safety testing one should always perform after installing/working on a trigger. Anyway, a 6-10 inch drop onto a padded surface to test the sear engagement. The pin snapped in half. Tapcos customer service was first class. They sent me a complete new stock, free, only asking that I send them back the old one for examination. I was happy. Things happen. I have no complaint about the fit or function of the stock itself, it works fine for me. The second malfuntion occured recently, at my last range session. While on the bench, firing, my rifle jammed. IT is an ARmilite, it has never jammed. The bolt was jammed in the rear, not on a round. After some banging and manipulating, I managed to free it and break it open. as soon as I did, the buffer tube spring and detent luanched into the grass in front of the bench. Examination revealed that the detent had worked through the buffer tube. Drilled a hole right through. This is unnacceptable to me. The extension tube metal apparentley is too soft to stand up to the detent. I was able to recover the parts, and thanks to having tools with me, retun the rifle to function and continue shooting by screwing the tube in another turn. I am aquiring the parts to switch to a fixed stock .I built the rifle in 2008, did the trigger and replaced the stock in October of that year. I had not intended to post about this until I had an opportunity to notify Tapco and take some pictures, but the OP asked the question, and I felt like it was relevent. I am not asking for a response from Tapco, I am no longer concerned. Their product has spoken for them, at least to me. Losing the buffer detent and spring occurs more than you think. You can shoot the carbine w/o having either the detent and spring in the lower. How did you turn the extenstion in another turn if the end plate was staked into the extension nut? if you could just turn the buffer tube at the range im gonna go with you shot it loose maybe? imo a buffer tube shouldnt be that easy to just turn Did ya' miss the part about DRILLED A HOLE IN THE BUFFER TUBE ? I was able to turn the extension tube because at that point the Tapcos future on the rifle became very short, and I became unafraid to take a pair of water pump pliers I had in the truck to the castle nut, in order to continue my shooting session.
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Quoted: Did ya' miss the part about DRILLED A HOLE IN THE BUFFER TUBE ? I was able to turn the extension tube because at that point the Tapcos future on the rifle became very short, and I became unafraid to take a pair of water pump pliers I had in the truck to the castle nut, in order to continue my shooting session. That pliers thing would have been helpful info. It would not "drill" a hole into your extension. It would push upwards onto the extension lip, deforming it, maybe even cracking the lip off, thereby allowing the detent and spring to become dislodged and bind up your bolt carrier, which would cause the malfunction you alluded to earlier. This happens to more than just TAPCO extension tubes. You can reduce the chances of this occurring by using a quality extension tube. TAPCO are what they are. Some items I like, some I do not. Some items I have never tried, and some items make me go . |
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I use their stock on my 10/22, and it is great.
their CS is also excellent. I had a problem with my first stock and they shipped me a new one very quickly. I would not hesitate to use their products. They may not be the strongest, but they fill a part of the market where people are looking to accessorize without spending all their money. Nothing wrong with that. |
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Did ya' miss the part about DRILLED A HOLE IN THE BUFFER TUBE ? I was able to turn the extension tube because at that point the Tapcos future on the rifle became very short, and I became unafraid to take a pair of water pump pliers I had in the truck to the castle nut, in order to continue my shooting session. That pliers thing would have been helpful info. It would not "drill" a hole into your extension. It would push upwards onto the extension lip, deforming it, maybe even cracking the lip off, thereby allowing the detent and spring to become dislodged and bind up your bolt carrier, which would cause the malfunction you alluded to earlier. This happens to more than just TAPCO extension tubes. You can reduce the chances of this occurring by using a quality extension tube. TAPCO are what they are. Some items I like, some I do not. Some items I have never tried, and some items make me go .
JEEZ Do you even read?. Examination revealed that the detent had worked through the buffer tube. Drilled a hole right through
Besides, how do you know that the detent didn't rotate a little each time the rifle was fired and "drill" ? Mayybe it has a little burr that acts as a cutter! Semantics. The point I was making is the same one you presume to make to me, you can reduce the chances bty using quality parts, and Tapco, apparently, ain't it. I must unfortunatly agree that Tapco is not high quality. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Did ya' miss the part about DRILLED A HOLE IN THE BUFFER TUBE ? I was able to turn the extension tube because at that point the Tapcos future on the rifle became very short, and I became unafraid to take a pair of water pump pliers I had in the truck to the castle nut, in order to continue my shooting session. That pliers thing would have been helpful info. It would not "drill" a hole into your extension. It would push upwards onto the extension lip, deforming it, maybe even cracking the lip off, thereby allowing the detent and spring to become dislodged and bind up your bolt carrier, which would cause the malfunction you alluded to earlier. This happens to more than just TAPCO extension tubes. You can reduce the chances of this occurring by using a quality extension tube. TAPCO are what they are. Some items I like, some I do not. Some items I have never tried, and some items make me go .JEEZ Do you even read?. Examination revealed that the detent had worked through the buffer tube. Drilled a hole right throughBesides, how do you know that the detent didn't rotate a little each time the rifle was fired and "drill" ? Mayybe it has a little burr that acts as a cutter! Semantics. The point I was making is the same one you presume to make to me, you can reduce the chances bty using quality parts, and Tapco, apparently, ain't it. I must unfortunatly agree that Tapco is not high quality. I read quite well, thank you. Your ability to describe what happened with your soft aluminum..... I would have contacted TAPCO to exchange the tube for a couple of range magazines, (or sell in order to offset the cost of your new tube), but then I understand you not wanting to give them a third try and all. |
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