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12/11/2004 4:08:47 PM EDT

While getting ready to remove  the FSB from my 20" (new postban barrel assy) , I noticed that the small end of the pins were not on the same side of the  base.  The front one drove out from the right and the rear one from the left.    Now when I was going to reinstall the FSB  I  used my dial calipers to measure the holes in both sides to double check my orientation.  All 4  holes measure  about .122" by way of my calipers.   Er ?

 I then measured the pins and  they appear to be straight  pieces of .125" drill rod with about .050 of one end bevelled down to  .100" or so as if it were spun against a grinder on an angle.
 I don't have the right size drill bit to check the tunnels in the barrel, but neither end of either pin will go into these  holes far enough by  hand that you cannot see the end of it  at the pointed end of the hole.

Would I be safe in  ASSuming  that since the pins aren't actually tapered,  the maker was counting on an interference fit to keep things tight  ?  

And should I not worry about it as long as I get the things jammed back  in  tightly anyway ?

This is the first FSB I've removed so I don't have anything to judge by.

Thanks for any help ,
Rip

12/11/2004 6:09:29 PM EDT
[#1]
That sounds really fugly. I would be pissed off as hell if someone tried to pawn something like that off on me!
12/11/2004 7:33:09 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
And should I not worry about it as long as I get the things jammed back  in  tightly anyway ?



A little loctite never hurts in a case like this.
12/11/2004 7:41:10 PM EDT
[#3]
I've seen quite a few uppers recently with dowel pins instead of taper pins. I wouldn't worry about it. I've had some older ones (oly?) with roll pins even, and they held up fine.

12/12/2004 3:00:54 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:

Quoted:
And should I not worry about it as long as I get the things jammed back  in  tightly anyway ?



A little loctite never hurts in a case like this.



 That's a 10-4 ,   as long as the drilled holes matched the profile of the pins I was hoping there wouldn't be a functionality issue.  I've got some new epoxy I've been wanting to try and this might be the time to do it.

  Treetop,.  if I want something from a non-big4 company in the future I will be sure to call/email the dealer and ask before ordering.

Thanks for the help guys.    This barrel is going on the  MGI upper as part of my informal test and  a  moving  or leaky FSB wouldn't help the results.

Rip

ETA  These dowels are HARD , I would think that the taper pins  are cheaper.  Maybe something besides $$ is involved ?
12/12/2004 6:05:16 AM EDT
[#5]

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[ETA  These dowels are HARD , I would think that the taper pins  are cheaper.  Maybe something besides $$ is involved ?



Dowel pins are a common item at any hardware store or machine supply shop, and the proper reamer is an off-the-shelf tool. Taper reamers are harder to find, harder to use properly (going too far makes the hole too big), and more expensive.

It could be argued that since a dowel pin is of even diameter throughout its length, that the interference fit throughout the hole is more uniform- thus creating a more stress-free and equally loaded attachment.
I've never had a problem I could directly relate to either taper or dowel pins, or even roll pins.
12/12/2004 6:50:34 AM EDT
[#6]
I've never thought about it,but that sounds reasonable to me.   I won't worry about it but will file it away for future reference.   Thanks,
Rip
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