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Posted: 2/13/2013 3:11:25 PM EDT
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It all hit the fan... So would you rather have a T-1 on you rifle or a Comp M4 because of ease of finding batteries?
Also if you chose the Comp... high tube or low? Thanks! |
I bought this. And then proceeded to add DL 1/3N's to my ammo can full of CR123's and AA's 
ETA: If you buy something that requires batteries just make sure you buy a healthy supply. I've tried to narrow down buying different types of batteries and have got it down to the the three listed above. 
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I bought this. And then proceeded to add DL 1/3N's to my ammo can full of CR123's and AA's
ETA: If you buy something that requires batteries just make sure you buy a healthy supply. I've tried to narrow down buying different types of batteries and have got it down to the the three listed above. http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t520/INFIDEL814/D23365F3-FD58-4800-A320-0C11BDFCB22B-1044-0000007896A70556_zpsd1d4faa0.jpg What kind of lower is that? Never seen one with the infinity selector marking or the keyhole forge mark on the mag well. |
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I have a Eotech on one of my ARs and thought this same thing. I ended up getting an Acog for my other AR due to no need for batteries, but both have BUIS so it really don't matter. Not sure about the batteries being more common. 2032 batteries used in a ton of components. Almost all pc's have a 2032 battery on the motherboard I prefer the T 1 |
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I bought this. And then proceeded to add DL 1/3N's to my ammo can full of CR123's and AA's
ETA: If you buy something that requires batteries just make sure you buy a healthy supply. I've tried to narrow down buying different types of batteries and have got it down to the the three listed above. http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t520/INFIDEL814/D23365F3-FD58-4800-A320-0C11BDFCB22B-1044-0000007896A70556_zpsd1d4faa0.jpg What kind of lower is that? Never seen one with the infinity selector marking or the keyhole forge mark on the mag well. lwrc. and to answer the op, out of those choice, comp m4 bc of its high durability reputation |
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I'll take my Eotech 553. I've got lots of batteries, and honestly, doubt that I'll make it through a few years to go through my stash. batteries will be worth more than gold, I doubt you will wanna waste them. It would be like using your potable water to clean your muddy boots off. I put 1 battery in my comp m4 3 years ago and it is still on. Plus I save all my used up batteries to put in it as there is still enough charge to run it. |
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I have a Eotech on one of my ARs and thought this same thing. I ended up getting an Acog for my other AR due to no need for batteries, but both have BUIS so it really don't matter. The only problem is, what happens when the tritium lamp goes dead? I live within driving distance of Wixom so if when mine died I could go up there and either pay them or raid the abandoned facility. Seems in SHTF I'd rather have a AA or 123 powered optic. The thing I dislike about the M4 is that the batter is mounted inline. And EOTechs kinda proved why that's a bad idea... 
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It's a no brainer for me...T1 or CompM4/M4s. Both are built like tanks, and will go for years on the same battery.
Yes, the M4 gets the slight edge for the wide availability of AA batteries, but let's be realistic...if you stash just a few spare batteries aside for the T1 - you're still covered for well over a decade. And that's just with a few batteries set aside... If people prefer the EoTech reticle, that's fine. But this is one of the conversations that I frankly don't even find to be a debate. |
3 of my rifles are A1s
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I have a Eotech on one of my ARs and thought this same thing. I ended up getting an Acog for my other AR due to no need for batteries, but both have BUIS so it really don't matter. The only problem is, what happens when the tritium lamp goes dead? I live within driving distance of Wixom so if when mine died I could go up there and either pay them or raid the abandoned facility. Seems in SHTF I'd rather have a AA or 123 powered optic. The thing I dislike about the M4 is that the batter is mounted inline. And EOTechs kinda proved why that's a bad idea... How often do you in fact use the tritium illumination? IMHO, the tritium is an interesting and good feature, but its practicality is highly limited. Usually by the time the tritium kicks in and illuminates the reticule, it's too dark to PID you target. Honestly, I'd love if Trijicon would sell tritum-free ACOGs at significantly lower prices - the FO illumination or the black crosshairs work perfectly fine for me. As far as I'm concerned, in most situations, the ACOG is a day sight - and no non-battery powered optic "does it" for me in darkness. For a modern situation, there's a variety of other options that serve me better at night. As far as "SHTF" goes, I would recommend an etched reticule as a primary day sight, like an ELCAN or ACOG that can function without batteries. Stock and store batteries and use them until they run out/expire - just remember, that eventually they will expire, and if there is no more supply, then that's that. It would require yet again something more catastrophic for me to give up optics, however - I suspect good etched reticule combat optics should last at least as long as the weapon itself will. Just keep your glass clean and protected, as scratches will probably take it out of commission far quicker than anything else - at which point, you're back to irons if you're really planning for that kind of ridiculously drawn out SHTF scenario. If you're talking about a "Katrina" style SHTF scenario of short duration - frankly, I'd just stock the appropriate batteries, and have plenty of spares in your bug out bag, on your kit, and if possible, in/on the weapon for a multiple tiered redundancy plan, and call it good, and not worry as much about what you can "pilfer." On the one had - common and easy to find batteries are good - on the other hand - everyone will want them to power their various electronic devices. If you think of a Walgreens looting scenario - AA batteries will probably be the first to get looted - the fact that they stock more of them than others will be irrelevant to the fact that no one will really want the watch and digital camera batteries on the shelf - they'll rape out all the AAs first. You can continue to wargame ridiculous "SHTF" scenarios and worry about it - but the fact is, no one knows how its going to shake out, and a SHTF scenario is far different than a "war" scenario for a variety of reasons. Finally, there's the classic ARFCOM answer - get both - then you can use whatever batteries you can find and call it good. ~Augee |
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In a "SHTF" scenario that has not turned into the end of the world as we know it, I would go with the T1/Larue 1/3 mount. I already have a spare battery in the mount and if shtf for longer than 2 years than there is more important things to worry about IMO. Also the T1 is much lighter and also built like a tank with a better FOV as well IMO of course. As for the Aimpont Comp M4 I'd go with the "S" version cause the other one effects FOV IMO . Irons sights and etched reticle scoped suppressed .22 rifle's will be a better friend in a extended "SHTF" end of world situation for me. YMMV. |
| If you stock up on batteries, either will be fine until the shelf life of the battery is depleted. It would only take a few batteries to be stockpiled before you reached the 7 year shelf life of the 2032s and a few AAs to reach the shelf life of 10 years that the new duracells claim. After a long lasting SHTF scenario where you will need to worry about the current batteries in your optic being depleted, there won't be anybody making new batteries, so the shelf life on anything that has already been produced will determine how long you can stay up and running for. That equates to 3 extra years if running the M4, however after 5 years, i think the difference between 7 and 10 year battery lives will seem negligent. Get whatever aimpoint you like better, they're both plenty tough enough. |
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I went with rechargeable CR123's (EOTech XPS, flashlights) and rechargeable AA's (PVS-7) and a 10W solar panel to charge them. The batteries are good for a few thousand cycles, and the 10W panel has 2 USB ports, the chargers hold 2 batteries apiece, so I am able to full charge 2 CR123's and 2 AA's in about 2-4hrs depending on the sun.
ETA: in response to the poster on the bottom of the 1st page. I also use the solar panel to charge my phone (galaxy S3) which takes 5-6hrs and a full charge lasts me 48hrs without excessive talk time. You could also buy a large capacity external USB battery pack to "bank" solar energy during the day when your other batteries are already charged. I considered it but found it to be unnecessary, even when spending a week+ hunting. |
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