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9/5/2002 4:04:12 PM EDT
Any feedback on titanium firing pins in a BM?
Pros/Cons?
Gracias...
9/5/2002 4:18:04 PM EDT
[#1]

Some people go to the Titanium firing pins to ‘solve’ a mythical slam fire problem.  Sorry folks, that was solved 35 years ago, and the result is the current chromed steel pin.  In a modern AR-15, slam fires are caused by either using very soft primers (like pistol primers) and/or not seating the primers deep enough (so the bolt face hits the primer).  Titanium firing pins will not offer an accuracy improvement for non-match rifles, and due to the nature of Titanium have a tendency to wear out and chip (chipping can lead to pierced primers – something you don’t want to happen)  Save your money and keep the rifle reliable – use standard parts from quality vendors


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9/5/2002 4:26:06 PM EDT
[#2]
Titanium firing pins are meant to reduce lock time and reduce the chances of a slam fire. They might be fine in a custom built bolt action tack driver but in an AR (even a match grade one) it probably won't make much of a difference. The downside to titanium firing pins is that if it pierces the primer the firing pin will get burnt/pitted unless you reload and use harder primers.
9/5/2002 4:38:41 PM EDT
[#3]
Thank you gentlemen...case closed.
9/5/2002 5:32:16 PM EDT
[#4]
My Ti firing pin was "flame cut" after it pierced a primer, now it's gone.  From now on, I'll stick with GI steel (and a spare).
9/5/2002 6:00:41 PM EDT
[#5]
The QMI Gold titanium nitrided titanium firing pin will improve the accuracy of ANY AR and works well on machineguns. They are standard on Les Baer AR's...like a tricked out high speed ignition system..they do make a difference.

www.qmigold.com
9/5/2002 8:40:55 PM EDT
[#7]
"Titanium Nitride" is NOT the same as a "Titanium" component. One is a coating, and the other referrs to the material from which it is made.. The goldish coating one sees on a "Titanium Nitride" part IS the "Titanium Nitride", and not the base metal (almost universally a tool steel)

The fad with Titanium components still amuses me.. Titanium may be more corrosion resistant, but it's wear tendencies in reciprocating motions is decidely inferior to tool steel.. (As trivia, a notoriously long lasting firing pin was created for the Springfield Trapdoor, made from Beryllium Copper..)

One cannot buy accuracy. Practice does that. One cannot take a lazy shooter, hand them a fully dressed National Match rifle, and have them shoot perfect scores.  
Meplat-
9/6/2002 8:05:05 AM EDT
[#8]
I put them in my ARs for the supposed accuracy improvement.  These are match grade rifles and are very accurate.  The new pins made no difference.  IMHO they are a waste of money.  Watch-Six
9/6/2002 8:17:42 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
(As trivia, a notoriously long lasting firing pin was created for the Springfield Trapdoor, made from Beryllium Copper..)



Odds are that Beryllium Copper came from the Brush Wellman Plant that processes it in Elmore OH.  They also once made a BeCu lower for the Bill of Rights model that Olympic was selling back in '91.  BeCu is not really well suited for a lower due to massive cost of manufacturing cause by the properties of it. If you are into mountain biking they made a bike out of it that weighed ~6lbs with tires, only cost around $30K to make it!!

9/6/2002 2:10:05 PM EDT
[#10]
See Technical Note 1 in the Library at ArmaLite.com

The bottom line is that titanium is a gimmick, but a fun topic.
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