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Posted: 10/12/2012 9:24:57 AM EDT
| Are the windows on PMAGs worth the extra 2 bucks, on average, that they seem to run? Is it something that is easy to get in the habit of checking? And does anyone know approximately how many rounds are left when you can't see any in the window? |
I have both and will never buy the window version again inless its on sale cheaper then the standard version which I doubt will happen.I mainly got the one with the window just for looks I never look at the window while shooting I just try to keep a count on my rounds.. The standard version works perfect.
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| for my .223 I have lancers but I can say i havent really LOOKED to see how many rounds r left even with those. my .308 I have pmags and wouldnt even care if they offered a window version cause i dont look at them either. now i just wish lancer would make .308 mags instead. |
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the only reason i have 1 windowed pmag is for my home defense mag thats loaded.. all others are non-windowed just incase i need to make sure i have a certain amount of rounds at my disposal, even though i know its loaded, and i know how many rounds are there,its comforting to be able to see the rounds, and have a gauge on how many are left |
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Seems that windows are a "waste" of money then. In the little training I've had, and in the instructional reading I've done, its all about tactical reloading. Either the current mag hits the ground or goes in the dump pouch. I've never read or been told to "Check the window on your mag to see how many rounds you have and then...". It makes sense that the more training you do, the better feel you have for how many rounds you have anyway.
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One use for the window we have heard of from those window mags that were deployed is to allow a team leader to visibly id full magazines in the weapon prior to going outside the wire.
Apparently when coming back from patrol, the guns are all cleared upon reentry and the carry magazines slowly get downloaded when the rounds pulled from the chamber are not reloaded into the magazine. |
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I've bought windowed mags since the price difference is small and it is a feature which distinguishes them from most other mags.
Tactically, I don't see much personal use for them, since when there is a break in the action a partly empty mag gets replaced with a fresh/full one regardless of how many rounds are left. If all my full mags are used, I'm going to reach into my dump pouch and choose a heavy mag, using weight to choose, rather than take my eyes away from the fight to start looking at rounds-remaining indicators. I have found the windows useful when reloading partly filled mags with rounds on stripper clips. I can force the whole 10 rounds on the clip into the mag because I know if it needs at least 10 or 20 rounds. |
| I bought a bunch a while back because the price was right, I have no preference with windowed or not. They both function just fine. I like the snap on cover, so I buy the pmags.Other than that the C-Product USGI's work fine and are half the price. I use all 3. |
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I have both. I like both. Ive never looked down at the window to see how many rounds I have left to sling down range. From now on though, Im going with the non-windowed Pmags, just because they are cheaper. Id save the extra dollar or 2 and go with the non windowed ones
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| I had some with windows, but never used them. Now I have some nonwindow Pmags, and also Lancers. I dont' look thru Lancers really either. Nonwinndow Pmags work just fine. If you have to get visual confirmation of rounds or round count, the translucient Lancer work better. |
| I have all windowed Pmags and will keep it that way. The way the window works is that there are numbers on the side of the mag and one of the spring rings is orange. The orange ring indicates how many rounds are left and they count down by 5 from 25. I have checked the windows at the range a few times but never in the heat of the moment, when the bolt locks to the rear, or even it feels like a malfunction. I just drop the mag or dump bag it (depending on my loadout at the moment) and index the next. The windows are useful when picking up partial mags or if you walk away when your loading them. Personally, the best advantage for me is that I can quickly assess if a magazine in the hands of my wife or one of my buddies is hot. 2 bucks extra/mag seems like a lot for that advantage, but for (the lady's nice term for paranoid) an "overtly cautious person" such as myself the window also allows me to assess the same when any person has one of my mags in their hands whether it be at the range, in my home, etc. While I know that my wife and friends that I trust around my firearms know better than to be stupid, it is worth it to me to know that anyone with line of sight can perform a visual check in the event that the person handling the mag doesn't have the sense to put the safety of themselves and anyone else as their first priority. Ammo safety considerations are in place to keep these sort of things from happening, but I've never been a fan of a single line of defense. |
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Are the windows on PMAGs worth the extra 2 bucks, on average, that they seem to run? Is it something that is easy to get in the habit of checking? And does anyone know approximately how many rounds are left when you can't see any in the window? No..waste o' $ |
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