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Posted: 7/27/2013 4:52:35 PM EDT
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I have Danial Defense M4 V5 and I finaly got to shoot it today. I didn't really think the trigger was smoth. Is this something than can be adjusted or should I just swap it out?
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What Matthew said.
What Matthew said. If it doesn't smooth out after 500 rounds or so and a few clean/lubes, you might consider either a trigger job or an aftermarket trigger set. It would be good to learn how to remove and replace the fire-control group. You can clean the parts and grease them on reassembly. That alone will make a difference and it might be good enough for you. |
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New triggers usually smooth out with use. If you still do not like it after 500 rounds and/or dryfires, consider polishing or JP springs. I'd argue that a properly manufactured trigger will never "smooth out". The engagement surfaces on the trigger and hammer are so narrow there isn't enough time, pressure or distance to wear the parts even after thousands of rounds. A little grease on the engagement surfaces is the OP's best bet. JP springs are not designed to be used with mil-spec hammers and triggers. From JP's website: "To be used only with JP trigger parts. Will not yield substantial change on standard AR-15 trigger components." |
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I'd argue that a properly manufactured trigger will never "smooth out". The engagement surfaces on the trigger and hammer are so narrow there isn't enough time, pressure or distance to wear the parts even after thousands of rounds. A little grease on the engagement surfaces is the OP's best bet. JP springs are not designed to be used with mil-spec hammers and triggers. From JP's website: "To be used only with JP trigger parts. Will not yield substantial change on standard AR-15 trigger components." Quoted:
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New triggers usually smooth out with use. If you still do not like it after 500 rounds and/or dryfires, consider polishing or JP springs. I'd argue that a properly manufactured trigger will never "smooth out". The engagement surfaces on the trigger and hammer are so narrow there isn't enough time, pressure or distance to wear the parts even after thousands of rounds. A little grease on the engagement surfaces is the OP's best bet. JP springs are not designed to be used with mil-spec hammers and triggers. From JP's website: "To be used only with JP trigger parts. Will not yield substantial change on standard AR-15 trigger components." I'd say the "smooth out with use" idea varies from trigger group to trigger group. Some do smooth out with some use, although the difference is often slight. Some do not smooth out to any noticeable degree even with thousands of rounds. I had a bushmaster trigger that never changed appreciably after 1500+ rounds. I also have an ALG ACT that smoothed out tremendously in just a few hundred rounds. Other stock trigger groups have been in between. But none of them ever became "smooth" or "good" triggers. Stock mil-spec triggers just suck. My experience with JP springs is that the full yellow set is a very noticeable difference in pull weight from stock. The yellow hammer spring does run the risk of not popping hard military primers. The red/yellow set is much more subtle, and the results can vary from rifle to rifle. I have a set on a large pin Colt that made hardly any noticeable difference (what difference there was impacted only the short take-up phase. The break was not changed, so not worth it in my book). On a friend's S&W Sport, it made a definite difference on both the take-up and break. For $12, they were worth it on that rifle. They are expensive, but the Geissele SSA triggers are really excellent and worth every penny. |
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What about the QMS trigger by ALG Defense? The pull is very much like the standard mil-spec trigger but they remove much of the gritty pull of the stock trigger. The pull weight remains above 5.5 lbs to keep it within M4/M16 mil specs. Springs are corrosion resistant and a full force hammer spring is used for positive ignition. Improved pins are also included.
I've ordered one of these to try out but welcome any reports from other users. These run about $45 for the set but often you can find LPK's with the QMS for around $65-70. 
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