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12/13/2007 7:49:09 PM EDT
Who among you have had your finger on a JP Enterprises trigger and a Jewell trigger?

I put a JP trigger in my Rock River AR-15 about 3 years ago and love it, but I had never had a 2 stage trigger before.  So I decided to replace my JP trigger in my DPMS LR-260 with a Jewell.  It is a light trigger which i love for target shooting, but there is alot of pull length (take-up) in the first stage.  Is this normal?  Like I said this is my first 2 stage trigger.  I guess what Im tring to say is that I like the JP trigger better, even though it has more pull weight, it has alot less travel.  I guess I'm just spoiled with my Jewells in my 700 turn bolts.  Any insight would be helpful, do I just have to get used to this or is there something wrong?
12/19/2007 9:33:44 PM EDT
[#1]
I have used both, and if I had any JP triggers left I would offer to trade you for the Jewell ... grin.  Your conclusion is correct in that it is something that you have to get used to.  I had always used bolt guns, and was used to the crisp single stage triggers, so went with the JP to try to duplicate that in an AR.  What I found was that while the JP is a good trigger, it was not even close to the single stage triggers on my bolt guns.  It seemed like a compromise to achieve all the needs of a semi auto in a single stage design.

I had a Rock River Varmint with their National Match trigger which is a two stage design, and from that decided to try a Jewell two stage in a new build that I was doing.  What I found was that after much experimenting it seems that the key to the Jewell trigger is adjusting the second stage engagement and the overtravel.  As you said, the trigger has a fairly light first stage takeup, then meets the resistance of the second stage sear engagement.  Properly adjusted, the second stage will then break with almost no additional movement and very little additional pressure.

Once adjusted like this, it functions almost like a set trigger and provides me with a very accurate setup.  From an accuracy standpoint, it competes very well with the best of my bolt guns - albeit in a much different fashion.

Probably more than you wanted to know, but I hope that is helpful to you.
12/20/2007 8:23:16 AM EDT
[#2]
Im curious about the Timney Single Stage drop-in triggers in like a 4lb pull. Wonder how that would fair as a CQB or general setup...
12/24/2007 7:59:03 PM EDT
[#3]
Thanks for the help, I have messed with the adjustments on the Jewell and have found a good setup.  I have always felt that on a bolt action there are 2 types of triggers, Jewell and all the others.  I now feel the same way about my Jewell in my AR.  Again, thanx for the help.
12/24/2007 10:15:41 PM EDT
[#4]
Soooo, if I am starting out, should I go all the way? Money is not (kind of) an object, but I would like to shoot well from the begining or better than most. Not trying to take the Nationals (yet) he
Thanks in advance.
12/25/2007 4:10:04 AM EDT
[#5]
Im starting out on a rock river 2 stage that was 120$ and it's much better than a regular singular stage trigger. Its good for the money, but still not a jewel or anything...
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