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Posted: 4/9/2008 3:14:15 PM EDT
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I never understood what makes the ACOG so special. I also dont see how you guys can put it up against an EOTECH when there is like a $500 difference. Anyway... I want one to try out. Which model is good for an "ACOG" first timer? I won't be buying brand new as my first one. And hopefully I don't need to spend $1K. Thanks |
How did you acquire your prejudice while you haven't even looked through or used one?  Granted, ACOG is not for everyone, it's certainly not for every application, it has its shortcomings. Overall, it's one of the best, if not the best, 4x fixed magnification scope made anywhere, at any price. I challenge anyone to come up with a 4x, fixed magnification scope that's as well made, durable, and effective as a 4x32 ACOG  EOTech is in a different category altogether, you'd compare that with Aimpoint, TriPower, Reflex, etc, not an ACOG. |
Ok sooo..... back to the question at hand. You seem to feel pretty confident of ACOG's... can you recommend one for someone who has never used one? I was interested in buying used since they are pretty costly, and my only intention is punching paper. But they seem real fun. Just that there are so many different models on the Trijicon website. |
TA31 series  Brightly lit reticle, ultra clear glass, wide FOV, once you've tried one, you'd find it difficult to use anything less, or else.I did try to use something else, I've tried ELCAN, US Optics SN4, Schmidt & Bender Short Dot, I always come back to my beloved 4X32 ACOGs. |
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I will take a crack at this.....I have a supply of EOT's Aimpoints, scopes....I too was not sure about the ACOG, looked thru some, crystal clear...well made, built like a tank....so I went out on a limb and purchased the TA33-8 3X ACOG and let me say here, if I had to do it all over, I would have purchased the ACOG's in the past and passed on the 1X optics... For a 3x scope, and for close in shots, the BAC is great....now , I do like my 1X optics, they have their place and are great, the ACOG is a different category...it is so quick to aim, point and the clarity is unbelievable. I have more in the future, I have some builds that are in progress and wil more than likely go with the TA33 again. Right now I am looking at a TA11 for my new DSA FAL 58STG. 77 |
The ACOG is a magnified optic. Have you considered a magnifier for the eotech? When you look at the cost of the eotech, and the magnifier, it brings the price gap down quite a bit. The question becomes, what do you want to do with it? |
The Eotechs I have are already mounted. I wanted to mount an optic on a rifle currently only with iron sights. I really want to get into the world of ACOG's, just wondering where to start. |
| I have a TA31F-M4-RCO. I love it for the ultra clear optics, extremely precise windage and elevation adjustments, illumination no matter if it is a bright sunny day or a dark night. It also has a Bullet Drop Compensator. The M4 is for a 14.5 inch barrel and there is the TA31F-A4-RCO for a 20 inch barrel. And the BDC does work. I have a rifle with a 16 barrel and was able to hit a 2 foot target dead center from about 425 yards away. Great optic. And it is durable as hell. How many scopes can you run over with a truck and they still are accruate? |
| TA31's are great little sights for a .223. My wife loves them. If you are a scope swapper, and like to move sights around on occasion, think about the TA11 series, or the TA33R's. The longer eye relief allows you to put them on a heavier recoiling rifle, like an AR10, SR25, etc. Not a good idea with a TA31, you'll get an eyeful of scope. My favorites are the TA11F and TA33R-8. |
The TA01 was teh first one they made and it is basically normal but very durable scope that has tritium on the reticle so you can see it in low light. All of hte other ACOG scopes have what they call "BAC". There is a large fiber optic piece on top that gathers light and makes the reticle very bright in most conditions. Bright enough that if you shoot with both eyes open you can kinda use it as a dot sight for CQB. ETA: TA31 with triangle reticle:  |
I got this RCOM4 a couple of weeks ago for just a shade below 1K, brand new. http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j72/torrescg/019.jpg |
LOL! Seriously, the biggest reason why I bought an RCOM4 is that my son is a hardcore Call of Duty fan. |
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The ACOGS are one of the best scopes for an AR15. My favorite was TA31A but now they came out with the TA33R8 it is. The TA33R8 is lightweight, long eye-relief, and vary fast.  Mike @ CSGW www.csgunworks.com [email protected] Here’s some testimonials about CS GunWorks FEEDBACK about CSGUNWORKS on AR15.com FEEDBACK about CSGUNWORKS on Snipersparadise FEEDBACK about CSGUNWORKS on the HIDE |
Kill 150 baddies in that weapon and unlock the ACOG for it :) But back on topic...the ACOG really is the queen of AR-15 optics...its good for close and mid range target acquisition, the ladders underneat the reticle provide easy range adjustment to fit your target, it doesnt use batteries and it looks damn cool... |
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you can't compare an eotech to an acog. they serve different purposes. compare an eotech to an aimpoint. they are at least both unmagnified red dot sights. acog optics can't really be compared to much, they are a cut above the rest in virtually every category. i love mine 
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Is that setup for the proverbial "over-the-shoulder mirror shot"? |
Judging by the position of his safety/selector, I do believe it's the "shoot backward" position 
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CQB. The targets are farther away and thus you have more time to shoot them 
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EOtech is not magnified. By the time you get an EO and a magnifier, you're close to the price of the ACOG. The EO is a battery hog. The ACOG is powered by ambient light and tritium in dark situations. No battery failures at "bad times". The EO is an excellent close-quarters combat optic...the Trijicon was made for more versatility in the way of range and situation. |
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