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8/29/2012 10:20:50 AM EDT
I got a great deal on a upper about a year ago that had a factory barrel nut and pinned 14.5 barrel. So I sought out a rail system that attaches to the factory barrel nut. I ended up going with the rainier arms evolution. I love it, solid, lightweight, looks good. Zero complaints.

Fast forward to today, I have an inbound 18" 6.8 (thank you PSA) and am looking for a longer rail, something in the 15" realm.

Rainier doesn't make one that long, but Samson has their version available, I also see the Troy alpha. I like the fact that both use s factory barrel nut for mounting rather than some proprietary mount.

I'm looking for feedback on either of the 15" version. I already have a Rainer or two, so I get how the Samson works/handles, and the Troy feels close to the same. Is there any drawbacks to the Troy?

There is zero heat transfer with my rainier. I'd assume the Samson is similar, but not sure if the Troy has the fancy bushing to stop heat transfer.

I'd also be open to other ideas as well. I don't really like the quad rails anymore, but these work great because I can add rails as needed.

I will be chopping the FSB. So clearance shouldn't be an issue.

Thanks for any insight.
8/29/2012 10:25:18 AM EDT
[#1]
I don't have the Samson Evolution but I have the 11" Alpha rails and they are very nice. From what I read you can't go wrong with the Samson either.
8/29/2012 11:33:04 AM EDT
[#2]
check out the Noveske NSR rail. I have the Rainier Evo rail. and i have no complaints about it.  Ive been eyeing the NSR rail for a while and its one bad ass rail. its smaller in diameter than the evo and is just as light.
8/29/2012 11:57:33 AM EDT
[#3]
Not sure if Samson uses helicoils in their "pinch" design, but they may give way if you take it off more than a few times.  The Troy has a wedge-push design that is very solid.  It's a good rail, I have Troy Alphas on both my ARs and like them more than any other I've tried.
8/29/2012 12:24:01 PM EDT
[#4]
Check out some of the new Seekins rails...they are pretty nice.
8/29/2012 2:39:08 PM EDT
[#5]
Between the two I prefer the Rainier EVO feel and the Troy mounting system.

Between the two I would pick the Rainier but if cost isn't an issue I would pick the Noveske NSR even though it does use a different barrel nut.

8/29/2012 2:48:41 PM EDT
[#6]
I have the 15" Troy and love it.  Very narrow and low profile.  Light, strong.  No complaints.  Two Troys and no issues.
8/29/2012 7:33:32 PM EDT
[#7]
I have the 12.37" version of the Samson and I like it.  I chopped the FSB and had no clearance issues.  It feels larger than the Troy TRX Ext rail I have, but not so much larger that it's a deal breaker.

Really, either you choose will be a good choice.
8/29/2012 7:39:12 PM EDT
[#8]
i really like my troy alpha rail, the flip up front site is built into top rail system and sits flush when depressed.. it's lightweight and smooth, too... i know it mounts different than the samson rail, and i really don't know if that makes much difference, but no complaints about my troy rail at all...
8/29/2012 7:45:28 PM EDT
[#9]
I have the Troy 13" alpha and have not had an issue.  Mounts quite simply.
8/29/2012 8:01:02 PM EDT
[#10]
Is your barrel a rifle length or middy GS? If it's rifle length you could go with the Samson Evolution extended rifle length and leave it. You could also swap in a flip up front sight.

I'm probably going to try that next since the other rifle has a 13" TRX-E. I've got an 18" rifle length upper w/flip up and the ancient Oly and quad rail needs to go!

8/30/2012 2:49:44 AM EDT
[#11]
It's a mid gas.

I guess the biggest question I have is about heat transfer on the Troy.

The rainier/Samson has zero. The YHM I have on my pistol build gets hot after 10 rounds. I'd like to avoid that.

It seems that the mount on the troy is pretty solid, and it looks like I'd be happy either way. I just don't want a hot handguard, I find myself not shooting my pistol because of the handguard an it's heat retention/transfer.
8/30/2012 5:26:24 AM EDT
[#12]
That's a neat feature of the Samson, never knew that about them.

Troy does offer squid grips though––which provide extra comfort in addition to heat protection:

8/30/2012 6:07:11 AM EDT
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