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6/20/2019 12:31:50 PM EDT
We have clone threads devoted to FBI HRT, Secret Service, and tons of SOF stuff but what about the Marshals? Being about the only respectable federal agency left id like to see what these guys are using currently. Anyone have any ideas or pics?
6/20/2019 12:47:06 PM EDT
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"This was an age of extremes, a fascinating century of freaks...but nobody loved it." -Alfred Bester
6/20/2019 12:57:15 PM EDT
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Let me put my meat on your grill.
6/20/2019 12:59:30 PM EDT
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H&K UMP .45 here, pretty sweet gun
6/20/2019 1:03:38 PM EDT
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"All welchers should be removed from the EE"-Aimless
6/20/2019 1:53:20 PM EDT
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The way the eotech is mounted on that colt makes my head spin
6/20/2019 2:03:17 PM EDT
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M4A1 and 6921's are the carbines generally seen in the back of our G-Rides.
6/20/2019 2:14:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mad_Max1611:

The way the eotech is mounted on that colt makes my head spin
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A friend of mine runs one that way.  
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6/20/2019 3:45:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:

A friend of mine runs one that way.  
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Ive seen it done a lot with the old trijicon reflex stuff, never a eotech. I saw one one time where a guy had it on a detachable carry handle....
6/20/2019 3:47:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 18B30:
M4A1 and 6921's are the carbines generally seen in the back of our G-Rides.
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Definetly workhorses
No Gucci stuff?
6/20/2019 3:59:24 PM EDT
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Colt SBR (6933 I think) w/ dot/SF light
Rem 870
G22
Emotional attachment doesn't trump generational advancements.
6/20/2019 4:00:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mad_Max1611:

Ive seen it done a lot with the old trijicon reflex stuff, never a eotech. I saw one one time where a guy had it on a detachable carry handle....
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Did you give this guy a hacksaw?
What it boils down to is that they fear an effective resistance to their power: So, Left in power=Guns bad, mmmmkay...?, Right in power=Guns good!-thskirk
6/20/2019 4:08:30 PM EDT
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OST

Yes I know not USMS but Border Patrol is updating their uppers to BCM w/MCMR rails.

6/20/2019 4:14:34 PM EDT
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A lot of them are running SOLGW rifles.
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6/20/2019 5:35:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mad_Max1611:
Definetly workhorses
No Gucci stuff?
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Originally Posted By Mad_Max1611:
Originally Posted By 18B30:
M4A1 and 6921's are the carbines generally seen in the back of our G-Rides.
Definetly workhorses
No Gucci stuff?
A couple worn MP5SF and an SD with two round round burst only.  A couple 870WP models that are tired.  The USMS is more about catching bad guys and getting the job done than keeping up w the jones.

18Z50.....
6/20/2019 6:02:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 18B30:

A couple worn MP5SF and an SD with two round round burst only.  A couple 870WP models that are tired.  The USMS is more about catching bad guys and getting the job done than keeping up w the jones.

18Z50.....
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Hahaha good point
6/20/2019 7:11:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mad_Max1611:
The way the eotech is mounted on that colt makes my head spin
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Originally Posted By Mad_Max1611:
The way the eotech is mounted on that colt makes my head spin
Why? Makes more sense then mounting it on top of the carry handle. Lots of Aimpoints were mounted that way before there were flattops.

Heck, some units mount them that far forward even with flattops.

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6/20/2019 7:37:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Strela:

Why? Makes more sense then mounting it on top of the carry handle. Lots of Aimpoints were mounted that way before there were flattops.

Heck, some units mount them that far forward even with flattops.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/6163/2616969739_6a4b989bfd_jpg-986648.JPG
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I got an old A1 carry handle AR that I'm toying with the idea of a goose neck mount. I'd like one of the original Aimpoint mounts but with a modern interface for like a micro or a PA mini.
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6/20/2019 8:09:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Spiffums:
I got an old A1 carry handle AR that I'm toying with the idea of a goose neck mount. I'd like one of the original Aimpoint mounts but with a modern interface for like a micro or a PA mini.
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@Spiffums

Like so?



If so, shoot me a PM, I'll send one your way.

Tig
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6/20/2019 8:16:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mad_Max1611:
Ive seen it done a lot with the old trijicon reflex stuff, never a eotech. I saw one one time where a guy had it on a detachable carry handle....
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Originally Posted By Mad_Max1611:
Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:

A friend of mine runs one that way.  
Ive seen it done a lot with the old trijicon reflex stuff, never a eotech. I saw one one time where a guy had it on a detachable carry handle....
I wouldn't run one on a detachable carry handle.  

Actually works good with an AP or Eotech. Not my preferred, but very much usable.
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6/20/2019 8:25:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Spiffums:
I got an old A1 carry handle AR that I'm toying with the idea of a goose neck mount. I'd like one of the original Aimpoint mounts but with a modern interface for like a micro or a PA mini.
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Originally Posted By Spiffums:
Originally Posted By Strela:

Why? Makes more sense then mounting it on top of the carry handle. Lots of Aimpoints were mounted that way before there were flattops.

Heck, some units mount them that far forward even with flattops.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/6163/2616969739_6a4b989bfd_jpg-986648.JPG
I got an old A1 carry handle AR that I'm toying with the idea of a goose neck mount. I'd like one of the original Aimpoint mounts but with a modern interface for like a micro or a PA mini.
I picked up one of these for one of my A1/A2 guns. Kinda old school.

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6/20/2019 8:51:29 PM EDT
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6/20/2019 8:59:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mad_Max1611:
We have clone threads devoted to FBI HRT, Secret Service, and tons of SOF stuff but what about the Marshals? Being about the only respectable federal agency left id like to see what these guys are using currently. Anyone have any ideas or pics?
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My buddy has a brother that is one and said when he was in their sog team they had larue rifles
6/20/2019 9:00:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Strela:

I picked up one of these for one of my A1/A2 guns. Kinda old school.

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I have one for one of the sp1 carbines I inherited from my dad. We used to have it on a colt z cote but when we sold it we moved to a sp1 carbine
6/20/2019 9:02:55 PM EDT
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I feel like with how much of the top of the line gear HRT has, Marshals would have the same or better going after the most dangerous fugitives.
6/20/2019 9:21:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mad_Max1611:
I feel like with how much of the top of the line gear HRT has, Marshals would have the same or better going after the most dangerous fugitives.
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Much different funding source, plus Marshals are not trained like HRT. Not even close
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6/20/2019 10:08:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mad_Max1611:
I feel like with how much of the top of the line gear HRT has, Marshals would have the same or better going after the most dangerous fugitives.
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Wrong

Originally Posted By DoctorLove:

Much different funding source, plus Marshals are not trained like HRT. Not even close
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Not wrong
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6/20/2019 10:15:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FRBaseball:

Wrong

Not wrong
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I was of the understanding the marshals had very strict and intensive training? Funding is a different story.
6/20/2019 10:15:50 PM EDT
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The MN BCA uses Nordic Components NC15 SBRs.
6/20/2019 10:17:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mad_Max1611:

I was of the understanding the marshals had very strict and intensive training? Funding is a different story.
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The US Marshall's I have met around here are all over weight fat fucks. They contract out all the work to the BCA and Sheriff's departments here.
6/20/2019 10:28:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By FRBaseball:

Wrong

Not wrong
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So Marshals fast rope, do helo insertions, work in a team of highly trained operators using small unit tactics? All the ones I have worked with have been not that impressive
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6/20/2019 10:29:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DoctorLove:

So Marshals fast rope, do helo insertions, work in a team of highly trained operators using small unit tactics? All the ones I have worked with have been not that impressive
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He said you're not wrong lol.
6/20/2019 10:41:50 PM EDT
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There's a difference between your run of the mill Deputy Marshal and someone from SOG.  That's like giving an infantry grunt shit because he's not as highly trained as Delta.
6/20/2019 10:57:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:

He said you're not wrong lol.
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Sorry, it is beer 30. Carry on, nothing to see here
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6/20/2019 10:58:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DoctorLove:

So Marshals fast rope, do helo insertions, work in a team of highly trained operators using small unit tactics? All the ones I have worked with have been not that impressive
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Actually, some of them do.

Hell, I met up with my buddy who was in town doing live helo training with some cag guys not to long ago.
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6/20/2019 11:04:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BCV:

Actually, some of them do.

Hell, I met up with my buddy who was in town doing live helo training with some cag guys not to long ago.
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News to me. Not doubting, I just didn’t think they did. All my high speed days are long behind me and now I just work at an installation where lots of agencies train. The Marshals that I saw were just like normal LEOs. When I was doing cool guy stuff, I trained and taught tons of SWAT, ICE, etc.. No Marshals though
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6/20/2019 11:08:16 PM EDT
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There are different levels of "US Marshall". Some do courthouse/courtroom security, some do prisoner transport, and some do door-kicking.

A lot of the fugitive door-kicking teams are task-forces made up of local LE "deputized" as a Marshall.
6/21/2019 12:11:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By kwb377:
There are different levels of "US Marshall". Some do courthouse/courtroom security, some do prisoner transport, and some do door-kicking.

A lot of the fugitive door-kicking teams are task-forces made up of local LE "deputized" as a Marshall.
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Then on top of that you have USMS SOG
6/21/2019 1:44:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By cone256:

Then on top of that you have USMS SOG
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Still not on the same level as HRT.

Not saying SOG is a shitshow, but they aren’t on the same level.

And yes, I’ve worked with SOG.
Emotional attachment doesn't trump generational advancements.
6/21/2019 10:10:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mad_Max1611:
The way the eotech is mounted on that colt makes my head spin
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Originally Posted By Mad_Max1611:
The way the eotech is mounted on that colt makes my head spin
Do room and building clearance with a gas mask or SCBA. Lots of advantages to that set up if you have your head and or face in a mask or SCBA. Put it in one place and train with it that way. Then it works with mask on and mask off.
6/21/2019 10:45:29 AM EDT
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I have a good friend that is a US Marshall. Let's say somebody gets all messed up on meth, robs a bank, kills three tellers, and holes up in a dirtbag motel and wants to play bad ass. My friend is who they send to dig him out. Super nice young man with a great family. Glad I know him.
6/21/2019 10:54:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By FRBaseball:
Still not on the same level as HRT.

Not saying SOG is a shitshow, but they aren’t on the same level.

And yes, I’ve worked with SOG.
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Originally Posted By FRBaseball:
Originally Posted By cone256:

Then on top of that you have USMS SOG
Still not on the same level as HRT.

Not saying SOG is a shitshow, but they aren’t on the same level.

And yes, I’ve worked with SOG.
I wasn't implying that they're on par with HRT, I was just stating that there are different levels of proficiency depending on which group we're talking about
6/21/2019 12:57:51 PM EDT
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On the subject of rifles, one of the guys I have worked with has a new personal rifle that was from an approved list. He had an issued M4 that was pretty worn in
6/21/2019 9:30:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kwb377:
There are different levels of "US Marshall". Some do courthouse/courtroom security, some do prisoner transport, and some do door-kicking.

A lot of the fugitive door-kicking teams are task-forces made up of local LE "deputized" as a Marshall.
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True...but there is only ONE L in Marshal.

6/22/2019 11:50:10 AM EDT
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Time to Stop the dick measuring contests and get this thread back on track 1789.

USMS guns include

MAC-10 in 9mm (it was the 1980 and disco was on life support!)
870’s in all flavors to include the WP model.
Model 66 snubbies
SW 59
Sig 226
M16
M4A1
Glock 22,23,19M
MP5
UMP
And the AUG I brought to the party.
6/22/2019 12:32:54 PM EDT
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DUSM’s issued gear I’ve seen is legit—FirstSpear etc. Some pictured rifles might be personally owned setups.
6/23/2019 1:05:21 AM EDT
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1 L in Marshals
6/23/2019 12:10:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MidwestJ:
1 L in Marshals
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Unless a Marshal named is Marshall is shopping at Marshalls.
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6/24/2019 7:47:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BLKVooDoo:

They contract out all the work to the BCA and Sheriff's departments here.
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Originally Posted By BLKVooDoo:

They contract out all the work to the BCA and Sheriff's departments here.
Originally Posted By kwb377:
There are different levels of "US Marshall". Some do courthouse/courtroom security, some do prisoner transport, and some do door-kicking.

A lot of the fugitive door-kicking teams are task-forces made up of local LE "deputized" as a Marshall.
Yup! TF here, we do all their work! Lol
6/24/2019 7:59:25 AM EDT
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So I take it no one has any pics then?
6/24/2019 8:04:59 AM EDT
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