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4/28/2010 6:46:51 AM EDT
Where would any ID markings be found on an upper?
Please forgive the newby questions but I am brand spamkin new to the AR community
and have just found my first AR. I can see one symbol in the metal just forward of the
charging handle that looks like an old fashioned keyhole.
Thanks for your patience.
4/28/2010 6:53:19 AM EDT
[#1]
Keyhole = Cerro Forge





Cerro Forge made the raw forging - who actually final machined it is anybody's guess.





For future reference.



Forging marks/makers:



A (splintered) = Anchor Harvey Aluminum



AF = Alcoa Forge



C AF = Colt Alco Forge



C MB = Colt / Mueller Brass



Cardinal (stylized) = Cardinal Forge



CH = Colt Harvey Aluminum



CK = Colt / Kaiser Aluminum



Circle/Crooshairs w/"AR" = ArmaLite



CM = Colt / Martin Marietta



D (stylized) = Diemaco



DK = Diemaco / Kaiser Aluminum



E = Emco



EK = EMCO/Kaiser



E MB = EMCO/Mueller Brass



F keyhole = FNMI / Cerro Forge



FA = FNMI / Anchor Harvey



FK = FNMI / Kaiser Aluminum



FM = FN/Martin Marietta



FMB = FNMI / Mueller Brass



Keyhole = Cerro Forge



L = Lewis Machine & Tool



LK = LAR / Kaiser Aluminum



LM = LAR / Martin Marietta



M (under diamond) = Mueller Industries



PA = Capco / Anchor Harvey



PM = Capco / Martin Marietta



Square = BAFE




4/28/2010 8:07:53 AM EDT
[#2]
The keyhole logo (Cerro Forge) only identifies the forge that produce the raw forging that the upper receiver was produced from. Most of the major manufacturers use forge blanks with this forge mark. Does the barrel have any markings or stampings? Some barrels are stamped in areas that are covered by yhe handguards/ FF tube/rails. Does the lower receiver have a logo or manufacturers name stamped/rolled in?

I could give you a list of brands that I know of that have used Cerro forged blanks.


Addex
Delton
DPMS
Spikes Tactical
LMT
Knight’s Armament
Double Star
Smith &Wesson
Daniel Defense
Sabre Defense
Remington
BCM
Bushmaster
Stag
J&T Distributing (Doublestar)
CMMG
Colt M4 (“C” keyhole)
Yankee Hill

4/28/2010 8:31:03 AM EDT
[#3]
The lower is a sharps.
No markings on the barrel that I can find.
Thanks for the identification on the forging.
4/28/2010 1:07:25 PM EDT
[#4]
Sounds like it's a frankenrifle, homemade assembled with parts from everywhere or an unbranded kit build. Not nesseccarily a bad thing, but unless you talk to the guy that built it you'll never know for sure who made the various parts. The Sharps lower is just a stripped lower receiver.

Now the task is to find out if it has a .223, Wilde or 5.56 chamber. Most branded guns have the chamber size marked on the barrel. Did you look for barrel markings under the handguards? CMMG uppers are barrel marked under the handguards.
5/4/2010 2:43:13 PM EDT
[#5]
I have taken it down but where exactly is the marking identifyier for the barrel supposed to be located?
5/4/2010 4:31:15 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
I have taken it down but where exactly is the marking identifyier for the barrel supposed to be located?


Depends on the brand, & even then, some aren't marked.
5/4/2010 5:25:49 PM EDT
[#7]
Generally, uppers do not have the final manufacturers markings on them.  Some do and it's obvious.  Forge marks only id who forged the raw chunk of aluminum.
5/4/2010 5:31:00 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Keyhole = Cerro Forge


Cerro Forge made the raw forging - who actually final machined it is anybody's guess.


For future reference.

Forging marks/makers:

A (splintered) = Anchor Harvey Aluminum

AF = Alcoa Forge

C AF = Colt Alco Forge

C MB = Colt / Mueller Brass

Cardinal (stylized) = Cardinal Forge

CH = Colt Harvey Aluminum

CK = Colt / Kaiser Aluminum

Circle/Crooshairs w/"AR" = ArmaLite

CM = Colt / Martin Marietta

D (stylized) = Diemaco

DK = Diemaco / Kaiser Aluminum

E = Emco

EK = EMCO/Kaiser

E MB = EMCO/Mueller Brass

F keyhole = FNMI / Cerro Forge

FA = FNMI / Anchor Harvey

FK = FNMI / Kaiser Aluminum

FM = FN/Martin Marietta

FMB = FNMI / Mueller Brass

Keyhole = Cerro Forge

L = Lewis Machine & Tool

LK = LAR / Kaiser Aluminum

LM = LAR / Martin Marietta

M (under diamond) = Mueller Industries

PA = Capco / Anchor Harvey

PM = Capco / Martin Marietta

Square = BAFE



What is BAFE? I have one and was wondering what the square meant.

Thanks  M50
5/5/2010 1:20:06 AM EDT
[#9]







Quoted:
What is BAFE? I have one and was wondering what the square meant.
Thanks  M50




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