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9/22/2026 2:36:42 PM EDT
About to buy a new AR and have it narrowed down to a Geissele Superduty 16". Started out looking at DD V7 of Geiselle Superduty. Everything I read and look at pushes me toward the Geissele. I could be moved to buy something different but my real question is where should I look online to buy a Geisselle for the best deal. There aren't any dealers anywhere remotely near me with any instock so I am going to be ordering no matter what I decide to do.
9/22/2026 2:43:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By stepup:
About to buy a new AR and have it narrowed down to a Geissele Superduty 16". Started out looking at DD V7 of Geiselle Superduty. Everything I read and look at pushes me toward the Geissele. I could be moved to buy something different but my real question is where should I look online to buy a Geisselle for the best deal. There aren't any dealers anywhere remotely near me with any instock so I am going to be ordering no matter what I decide to do.
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You cannot go wrong with either. RIS II is nice, if you go DD.

Eurooptic is the best place I have found for both. Primary Arms is the second place I look.

I picked up a 14.5" Super Duty and my buddy has the 16" heavy barrel Super Duty. His heavy barrel 16" is still very handy.
9/22/2026 3:04:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By stepup:
About to buy a new AR and have it narrowed down to a Geissele Superduty 16". Started out looking at DD V7 of Geiselle Superduty. Everything I read and look at pushes me toward the Geissele. I could be moved to buy something different but my real question is where should I look online to buy a Geisselle for the best deal. There aren't any dealers anywhere remotely near me with any instock so I am going to be ordering no matter what I decide to do.
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Gunbroker has plenty
9/22/2026 7:51:29 PM EDT
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Super Duty
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9/22/2026 8:08:28 PM EDT
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Honestly what I think makes or breaks a rifle is the optic and trigger. I think if you go high on those you can’t really tell the difference between a high end or a low end except by craftsmanship.
9/22/2026 8:20:29 PM EDT
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You can dump as much money into a “Gucci” gun as you want, but you likely want gain much other than increased resale value. If you want to be thrifty, get a cheap complete lower from PSA or assemble a lower with decent quality internals, throw a ALG Defense trigger in it and then select the “Gucci” upper of your choice.
9/22/2026 8:40:35 PM EDT
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Geissele's are solid. I've been very happy with my two.
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9/22/2026 9:33:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CheemsK1500:
You can dump as much money into a “Gucci” gun as you want, but you likely want gain much other than increased resale value. If you want to be thrifty, get a cheap complete lower from PSA or assemble a lower with decent quality internals, throw a ALG Defense trigger in it and then select the “Gucci” upper of your choice.
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This is a very good way to get a really functional(precise, smooth, etc) rifle.

As someone mentioned above, the craftsmanship of a complete rifle does give a good warm fuzzy too.
9/22/2026 10:37:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CheemsK1500:
You can dump as much money into a “Gucci” gun as you want, but you likely want gain much other than increased resale value. If you want to be thrifty, get a cheap complete lower from PSA or assemble a lower with decent quality internals, throw a ALG Defense trigger in it and then select the “Gucci” upper of your choice.
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Yeah I have some guns I have put together and they are great but I want to buy a high end AR and not have a home built frankengun.
9/22/2026 11:23:48 PM EDT
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Yeah I have some guns I have put together and they are great but I want to buy a high end AR and not have a home built frankengun.
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It may be worth looking around locally to see what feels and looks best to you.
Yesterday 3:30:32 AM EDT
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If you go DD I would go RIS III.
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Yesterday 4:22:42 AM EDT
[#11]
Rooftop Defense has a bunch of Super Duties in stock. Various lengths and colors.
Yesterday 4:29:33 AM EDT
[#12]
My 14.5 Super Duty in OD Green shoots great

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Yesterday 5:17:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By dalle0001:
Honestly what I think makes or breaks a rifle is the optic and trigger. I think if you go high on those you can’t really tell the difference between a high end or a low end except by craftsmanship.
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...and barrel.
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Yesterday 8:29:11 AM EDT
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G all the way.  But I'm biased

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Yesterday 8:40:59 AM EDT
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DD w/RIS ll...after you run out of ammo, you can beat'em to death.  This heifer weighs ~12#s...I also have a duplicate of this, but with the DD SOCOM profile upper (re Brownells).

Yesterday 8:58:37 AM EDT
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Don't overlook Griffin's MK2 series.  Full ambi and can be had with a SS 5r rifled barrel
Yesterday 9:44:42 AM EDT
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You cannot beat the value of a Geissele super duty. Ambi safeties, trigger, barrels, excellent build quality. Nothing surpasses it IMO. I just sold my 11.5 upper to a 14.5 as I have 2 Colt 11.5's.
Yesterday 9:59:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By stepup:


Yeah I have some guns I have put together and they are great but I want to buy a high end AR and not have a home built frankengun.
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You probably won’t notice much difference other than just the pure craftsmanship of it. It just “feels” better overall but I also think once you have a well built factory gun you’ll probably get bored of your home built guns.

My thought is you’ll eventually sell off your home builds and just settle on a couple of well built factory guns and spare parts.
Yesterday 10:15:05 AM EDT
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I'm a low budget AR guy.  Sub 1k.
Then 1 day, a deal I see, a $3k+ new Noveske G3 Mk12 type build for $1.4k.  Less than half price?! Noveske G3 Receivers, Douglas Duracoat barrel, aems brake, PRI sight, rail, toob/LMT rear, Geissele HSNM trigger, etc.

Well, to shoot these high end ARs right, it seems I also needed to buy more than my plinking/budget ammo.  Like $1 per round ammo.  After about 100 rounds of the best ammo I had, 62gr green tip, it became a safe queen.

Until 2 years later, I sold on gafs marketplace for $1350 just for the complete upper.  Kept the noveske g3 lower with noveske lpk, geissele hsnm trigger, colt a2 stock.

High end AR also means high end ammo.  I'll stick to my sub 1k ARs, and even if I get a $950 AR upper, it is sub $1k with this high end lower I have left.
Yesterday 11:02:00 AM EDT
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I wanted to do the same thing as OP, buy a high quality complete factory assembled rifle.  Went with the Geissele 16” super duty and don’t regret it one bit.  

Very nice, accurate, quality rifle that feels like a complete and well thought out package.  

Added an optic, light, sling, suppressor and called it done.
Yesterday 11:03:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By dalle0001:
Honestly what I think makes or breaks a rifle is the optic and trigger. I think if you go high on those you can't really tell the difference between a high end or a low end except by craftsmanship.
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Those things are secondary to barrel quality.    If you have a barrel you have used that shoots tight, buy another one.
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Yesterday 11:51:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By dalle0001:


You probably won’t notice much difference other than just the pure craftsmanship of it. It just “feels” better overall but I also think once you have a well built factory gun you’ll probably get bored of your home built guns.

My thought is you’ll eventually sell off your home builds and just settle on a couple of well built factory guns and spare parts.
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Yesterday 11:22:31 PM EDT
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I just got a DDm4v7.  I have to admit it’s really nice,  light weight, well finished.
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Today 9:20:27 AM EDT
[#24]
Geissele super duty. They are the best production rifle being made at the moment IMO when weighing features and cost. I’d personally go for the pinned/welded 14.5 over the 16”.
Today 9:21:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By bmarshall1:
Don't overlook Griffin's MK2 series.  Full ambi and can be had with a SS 5r rifled barrel
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Short of a precision gun, why would anyone want a SS barrel when accurate chf chrome lined barrels are a thing?

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