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7/15/2005 1:43:23 PM EDT
Of the muzzle devices I've listed which do you think I should go with?

I'm putting together a target upper using a WOA SS Match bbl. I want to minimize recoil and I'm not concerned with flash suppression. I also don't paln any rapid fire shooting.

Please post your advice or experience with anything listed.

If there's something I missed, please post your suggestions.

PRI/MSTN Quiet Control

JP/Ben Cooley

Smith Enterprises

Miculek

Ops, Inc
7/15/2005 2:55:23 PM EDT
[#1]
Couldn't be happier with the MSTN QC Brake.



7/15/2005 7:32:10 PM EDT
[#2]
edwin907
Is the  "QC" that much quieter than the competition?  Did MSTN build that Upper For you? Looks nice.


talbalos
Other comps you might add to the list are the  Triangle Shooting Sports and the F2


7/15/2005 7:37:31 PM EDT
[#3]
That's an MRP upper....i believe Ed got it from Wes though.

Not quite the real OPS-INC, but have used the  ADCO cloned one, I was happy w/the results.
7/15/2005 8:00:25 PM EDT
[#4]
We are now authorized dealers of Ops Inc products, as well.

Be well!

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7/15/2005 9:36:41 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Couldn't be happier with the MSTN QC Brake.


www.pbase.com/edwin907/image/41233176/original.jpg





hey edwin907 how much louder is the mstn brake over a bare muzzle?


here's a thread with some intresting comments on the mstn brake
7/16/2005 2:30:21 AM EDT
[#6]
I would second the F2 brake from Wakal.  Maybe he will chime in here with more info.  I have had good luck with it.  Don't know about flash suppression, but I do know it isn't anymore offensive noise wise with a good set of muffs on than the others.  
7/16/2005 5:53:33 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
www.pbase.com/edwin907/image/41233176/original.jpg


hey edwin907 how much louder is the mstn brake over a bare muzzle



I usually use electronic muffs, and it seems a little louder, but I usually get more "comments" about the sound of Q3131A out of a 14.5"/Phantom, than I do about 75 grain TAP out of the 18"SS/QC brake.
The only direct comparison I have done showed it was considerably quieter than the "tank" brake another shooter was using on a 18" SPR.  
More importantly, in that same comparison, admittedly non-scientific, the QC brake equipped rifle did seem to have less movement, mostly less "hop" on the bipod from a concrete bench.
Being able to take a shot, then watch bullet impact at 15X on the Nightforce scope is great fun!
7/16/2005 9:15:49 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
www.pbase.com/edwin907/image/41233176/original.jpg


hey edwin907 how much louder is the mstn brake over a bare muzzle



I usually use electronic muffs, and it seems a little louder, but I usually get more "comments" about the sound of Q3131A out of a 14.5"/Phantom, than I do about 75 grain TAP out of the 18"SS/QC brake.
The only direct comparison I have done showed it was considerably quieter than the "tank" brake another shooter was using on a 18" SPR.  
More importantly, in that same comparison, admittedly non-scientific, the QC brake equipped rifle did seem to have less movement, mostly less "hop" on the bipod from a concrete bench.
Being able to take a shot, then watch bullet impact at 15X on the Nightforce scope is great fun!





thanks im finally off to shoot the rifle i built stop raining enough for to head out. will report back later on the loudness
7/16/2005 9:29:17 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
talbalos
Other comps you might add to the list are the  Triangle Shooting Sports and the F2



Any links?


Originally Posted By Edwin907
More importantly, in that same comparison, admittedly non-scientific, the QC brake equipped rifle did seem to have less movement, mostly less "hop" on the bipod from a concrete bench.


Thanks. That's the type of information I'm looking for.
7/16/2005 3:04:56 PM EDT
[#10]
well i shot my recon/reece today equipped with the mstn qc brake and have to say im impressed and sorta disappointed at the same time.

first off heres the rifle



was shooting  federal xm193 and 68gr. reman blackhills and there is slight to no movement/jump with the muzzle!


love the way it works as a brake but what i dont like is the loudness but i had a few people compare the loudness with another ar that was at the range.

up against a a 14.5 bushmaster equipped with a "izzy" flashhider it was comparable. owning a izzy myself  i would say its close being the mstn slighty louder, slightly.




though i like the brake i dont like the noise, this rifle being a midlength and running the mgi buffer i think i will do without the brake. i have shot the rifle with a vortex last week and there is noticeable muzzle rise and recoil reduction but to me it doesnt out weigh the noise.
7/16/2005 3:18:57 PM EDT
[#11]
Glad to get your comments on the brake.
I find it is really at home on the 18"SS barrel of my MRP, but the advantage there is that I can swap it out for the 16"SS/Vortex any time I want!
But with the weight of the 18" barrel, the brake's effectiveness is impressive as compared to the 16"/Vortex combination.
I usually shoot with ProEars Dimension 3 muffs, and I don't find the noise objestionable at all, but like I said, it does seem a little louder.

A question, did you notice any POI shift with the brake, versus the Vortex?
7/16/2005 3:31:29 PM EDT
[#12]
there was slight shift to the right but i was still in the 10 ring on the target



but i expected that since the vortex just tightens down on the bbl and the mstn uses the crush washer.





i would imagine that there would be less muzzle rise with the 18" due to the heavier bbl. but i agree it the brake does its job.

this is my first rifle with a muzzle brake so thats probably why i cant stand the noise that and the fact that all the other people shooting next got up and left.
7/18/2005 8:58:24 AM EDT
[#13]
Thanks. Looks likje I'm leaning towards the MSTN brake. One more question.

If anyone knows, how does the muzzle blast volume compare to a 7.62 FAL with a DSA muzzle brake? That's the only other rifle I have with a brake. I get some mild comments about the sideways directed blast from neighboring shooters when I shoot it at the range.
7/20/2005 4:22:40 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Thanks. Looks likje I'm leaning towards the MSTN brake. One more question.

If anyone knows, how does the muzzle blast volume compare to a 7.62 FAL with a DSA muzzle brake? That's the only other rifle I have with a brake. I get some mild comments about the sideways directed blast from neighboring shooters when I shoot it at the range.




dont know how it compares to the fal but i did get some mild to rude comments about the muzzle blast from neighboring shooters at the range when i shot mine.


7/26/2005 7:59:28 PM EDT
[#15]
Thanks for the input.

I ordered a PRI/MSTN QC brake this afternoon.
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