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2/10/2004 12:37:13 PM EDT
I am feeling the need to get a Surefire for my M4gery and am sure that Surefire is the way to go.  But here is my conundrum, which of these would be best suited to my simple needs: M2 Millennium, or the weapon-mounted M95/96?  And can the M2 be mounted on an AR?  Also, do the tailcaps fit on either of those three models?  Thanks for the info!
2/10/2004 1:18:46 PM EDT
[#1]
The M2 is not really a weapon light. Have you looked at the Surefire website under "weapon lights"?

[url]http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main/co_disp/displ/carfnbr/93/sesent/00[/url]

If you like a forward grip I would suggest the [url=http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main/co_disp/displ/carfnbr/266/prrfnbr/994] M-900. [/url]

[url=http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main/co_disp/displ/carfnbr/265/sesent/00] These [/url] replace your handguards.

[url=http://www.surefire.com/maxexp/main/co_disp/displ/carfnbr/267/sesent/00] More [/url] rail mounted weapon lights from Surefire

May I also suggest not using anything under 9 volts.

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2/10/2004 1:41:20 PM EDT
[#2]
Hmmmmm....it seems my original post should have been more specific.  [:)]

I know the M2 is not a "Weapon Light" but was wondering if it could become one.

Also, I have visited SureFire's website, as well as the websites of some dealers (MSTN,etc...).  All the configurations of easch light are confusing, as I don't really know the difference between the M95 and M96/97.  In fact, I am not too sure about all of the "light jargon".  I already have a TangoDown VFG and a RAS-II so I want a light that will go on a KAC rail.

I guess I should have asked what everyone here uses and why they chose that particualr light.

Also, why nothing under 9 volts?

Thanks!
2/10/2004 1:59:28 PM EDT
[#3]
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I know the M2 is not a "Weapon Light" but was wondering if it could become one.
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If it has a shock isolated bulb/bezel and there was a mount for it....sure.

Also, why nothing under 9 volts?
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Brightness of the light and overall runtime.

Thanks!
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You're welcome.
2/10/2004 5:16:11 PM EDT
[#4]
I have a problem when the flashlight costs as much as my new RRA!
2/11/2004 9:28:01 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Hmmmmm....it seems my original post should have been more specific.  [:)]

I know the M2 is not a "Weapon Light" but was wondering if it could become one.

Also, I have visited SureFire's website, as well as the websites of some dealers (MSTN,etc...).  All the configurations of easch light are confusing, as I don't really know the difference between the M95 and M96/97.  In fact, I am not too sure about all of the "light jargon".  I already have a TangoDown VFG and a RAS-II so I want a light that will go on a KAC rail.

I guess I should have asked what everyone here uses and why they chose that particualr light.

Also, why nothing under 9 volts?

Thanks!
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Yes, there are multitude of options and configurations and after awhile it all starts to blur if you're not used to it.

First off, about the only way you could have a true weaponsgrade light that could also double as a personal light* is to get a Classic 650 or 950 weaponslight and use a std. tailcap (or a 'clicker' such as the Z49).  Below is a pic of a Classic 650 (6v) with tape switch -

[url]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/315352/Dsc00338.jpg[/url]

Next, the following pic will help you identify the Millennium Universal lights -

[img]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-8/315352/bM95xM96x.jpg[/img]

Here's the break down of model #'s -

1st two digits - M9xxx = Millennium Universal system

The 3rd digit indicates volts:

M95xx = 6v
M96xx = 9v
M97xx = 9v but turbohead variant
M98xx = 12v turbohead only

The 4th digit indicates mount style:

M9x1x = thumbscrew mount
M9x2x = ARMS throw lever mount

The start of 5th digit indicates switch type:

M9xxP = momentary push button activation or twist for constant on
M9xxC = partial pressure will give you momentary activation or if you press deep it will click for constant on/off
M9xxSU0x = tape switch style tailcap, 0x would indicate length (06 would = a 6" wire plus the pressure pad.)

And to further confuse you, the new XM tailcap that's coming out (C switch & SU0x combined) should have the coding M9xxXM0x.

[i]*  Before Al (Size15s) corrects me, there are a few other tricks but the body components won't match in color.[/i]
2/14/2004 2:09:41 PM EDT
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So I guess that since my vertical grip is positioned toward the rear of my RAS-II that I will have to go with the tape switch model?  I was thinking of the (let me see is I get this right) M962C.  But now I think I may have to with the M962SU0x tape switch model.  What do yall think?  Can I have a "C" model and still place it far enough back to be able to click it with my VFG?  Thanks!
2/14/2004 2:25:43 PM EDT
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So I guess that since my vertical grip is positioned toward the rear of my RAS-II that I will have to go with the tape switch model?  I was thinking of the (let me see is I get this right) M962C.  But now I think I may have to with the M962SU0x tape switch model.  What do yall think?  Can I have a "C" model and still place it far enough back to be able to click it with my VFG?  Thanks!
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At what position are you wanting to put the light, 3 o'clock, 6 o'clock?  You'll be able to use the C switch at 3/6/9 with your VFG, it's only a matter of getting it situated just right.  

There are also offset angle adapters that will help position the light for better comfort -

[url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=20&t=177640[/url]
2/16/2004 2:36:59 PM EDT
[#8]
So, when SF gonna come out with the XM0x model.
 BTW, very info Brightflashlights, thanks.
2/16/2004 4:01:12 PM EDT
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So, when SF gonna come out with the XM0x model.
 BTW, very info Brightflashlights, thanks.
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Soon is the best quote I can give, I have a feeling the backorders will be lengthy for a while.
2/17/2004 5:15:03 PM EDT
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I have a problem when the flashlight costs as much as my new RRA!
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No kidding! I hope that one condiders their needs for a light before counting off over 500 dollars for one. In my tiny 2700 sq foot house a couple of candle power is enough ... a 6P is blinding - I now use a 3TL with over twice it's light.
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