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12/26/2008 2:01:20 PM EDT
Not mine.
http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/parts.cgi?read=237339


Price is way good for todays market.
12/26/2008 3:12:44 PM EDT
[#1]
thanks for the link, i think i'll give them a call monday
12/26/2008 4:36:47 PM EDT
[#2]
Good price, especially if the description is correct.
12/26/2008 5:20:56 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Good price, especially if the description is correct.



Just left them a message. I'll let you know.
12/29/2008 6:26:14 AM EDT
[#4]
Link is gone.

What happened?
12/29/2008 8:24:09 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
Link is gone.

What happened?


IM sent
12/29/2008 1:53:14 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Link is gone.

What happened?


The posting probably didn't meet Buddy's standards. He's pretty sensitive that way.
12/29/2008 4:23:35 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Link is gone.

What happened?


IM sent


so what's the scoop?
12/29/2008 5:03:29 PM EDT
[#8]
He only had 100 and Mark bought them all...
12/29/2008 5:34:52 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
He only had 100 and Mark bought them all...



HA! Eff that! I picked up one, and was sweating bullets contemplating that one! I'm cheap!!!

$28,500? I couldn't spend that on the wifes new car
12/29/2008 5:58:16 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
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Link is gone.

What happened?


IM sent


so what's the scoop?



IM sent with the scoop.
12/29/2008 6:29:03 PM EDT
[#11]
scoop?

wait, if I read this correct they cost HOW MUCH?????
12/29/2008 6:37:42 PM EDT
[#12]
$389 seems a bit steep.  I got an XM16E1 upper for $200 and a refinished 604 for $260 in the last 45 days.
12/29/2008 6:38:17 PM EDT
[#13]
$285.00 In unused condition
12/29/2008 6:42:10 PM EDT
[#14]
oh  any left?
12/30/2008 2:20:51 AM EDT
[#15]
http://1919a4.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=21217
12/30/2008 5:05:44 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
http://1919a4.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=21217

That's the one:  HOT LINK
12/30/2008 5:14:37 AM EDT
[#17]
Looks to me like they were all sold before monday morning.

Mark has the guy contacted you? Hope you got in early enough to get one!
12/30/2008 5:17:54 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Looks to me like they were all sold before monday morning.

Mark has the guy contacted you? Hope you got in early enough to get one!


And if you did, post pics.

12/30/2008 5:33:36 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Looks to me like they were all sold before monday morning.

Mark has the guy contacted you? Hope you got in early enough to get one!


Yeah, I talked to them yesterday morning, 9 A.M. They lady I talked to indicated they had some left then. I have one on the way.

I think they open at 9 Central time, as I tried to call at 8:30 the first time, and couldn't get through.
12/30/2008 8:25:50 AM EDT
[#20]
I got two on the way
12/30/2008 2:36:09 PM EDT
[#21]
I tried 3-4 times today and yesterday, nobody ever answered. Oh well....
12/30/2008 7:08:38 PM EDT
[#22]
That sucks...I sent an email and a nice lady called me back in about ten minutes.
12/30/2008 10:31:32 PM EDT
[#23]
I called and got a machine on Monday so.. I left my call back number around noon and was called back a few hours later and I bought one .  I got it today about noon !! WOW ! and what a nice barreled upper it is !! I had to pay the IN tax but It was a late Christmas gift to my self!!

manygunsmike
12/31/2008 6:39:28 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
I called and got a machine on Monday so.. I left my call back number around noon and was called back a few hours later and I bought one .  I got it today about noon !! WOW ! and what a nice barreled upper it is !! I had to pay the IN tax but It was a late Christmas gift to my self!!

manygunsmike


you must post PICS!!
12/31/2008 7:34:58 AM EDT
[#25]
Mine shipped yesterday.
12/31/2008 12:19:00 PM EDT
[#26]
The lady said mine would ship today......lucky me.

Does anyone know the history/model # of these?
12/31/2008 12:29:29 PM EDT
[#27]
I just bought three.  Am I crazy?  Does that make me a sheeple?

If you want one, call and pay by credit card.  They can't really know what they have left because they are waiting to receive mailed checks.  And we all know the one about "the check is in the mail".
12/31/2008 1:06:33 PM EDT
[#28]
Well, hellfire. Got one on the way. So looks like either my Gunny's upper, my other slabside, or this one will be on the EE after everything gets here and sorted out. Yeesh. When is NDS going to get those 601s done?????
1/5/2009 6:05:30 PM EDT
[#29]
I finally got through today on these, and they still have some in stock! $285 is a damn good price if you want a good slick side upper....
1/6/2009 9:00:35 AM EDT
[#30]
Got my call back this morning. It ships today. Particularly satisfying as the current production stuff is unobtanium at the moment. The guys at Marcolmar are awesome. I've gotten some Sig stuff from them in the past. I'm in the retro game now dammit!
1/6/2009 9:08:12 AM EDT
[#31]
Mine is here, waiting for me to pick up the package.

Great deal.
1/6/2009 9:31:24 AM EDT
[#32]
Hey FK,
Great deal indeed! Post pics please. Something to hold us over you know.
1/6/2009 1:00:13 PM EDT
[#33]
I'm away from the deliervery site, might take a few days.
1/6/2009 5:01:20 PM EDT
[#34]
My upper was setting on the dinning table when I got home tonight.

Colt upper, 3-prong, bbl. marked "12" up front and "M" and triangle between FSB, steel gas tube. '64-'66?.
Left hand guard matt, right shiny.
Can tell it has been fired but I'd guess not more that a half dozen times.
Light rust under hand guards - nothing serious.

To say I'm pleased is an under statement.
1/6/2009 5:14:07 PM EDT
[#35]
Very cool, SgtRock2. Sounds like you got a pretty early one! Hopefully I get an early one too. I'm expecting mine soon, as they were supposed to ship yesterday.
1/7/2009 6:05:25 AM EDT
[#36]
I did not even consider the possibilty that some may come with 3-prongers. That would be cool. If not its getting one anyway. Whats the correct lower for this pup? XM16E-1?
1/7/2009 9:57:08 AM EDT
[#37]
Man, my money order needs to hurry up and get there.
1/7/2009 9:58:27 AM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
I did not even consider the possibilty that some may come with 3-prongers. That would be cool. If not its getting one anyway. Whats the correct lower for this pup? XM16E-1?


For a birdcage flash hider, NDS16A1. For a three-prong, XM16E1. Of course, if you go XM16E1, you have to go all the way and invest in dimpled pins, selector, magazine catch........

1/8/2009 8:59:57 AM EDT
[#39]
Well, mine's here. What I ended up with:

Barrel marked C MP C, and as far as I can tell, it's unfired. No wick down the bore, but no unburned stuff either, no crud at chamber end/bolt locking lugs where you can never get it out.
A1 Birdcage Flashider, with "Barrel cot" protector.
Front Sight base has the flash milled off.
Sling svivel roll pinned and appears to have been neither slinged or swivelled. Still has white protective crap on it.
Mint condition matching semi-glossy handguards. Left has no drainholes, right has two drainholes.
Black slipring with two minor scars, matching the two minor scars on the:
Really nice condition non refinished 604 receiver. That has been dropped on the concrete. Twice. One ding to the front left of the carry handle, that I'll have to dress down with a light file, as it raised a little snag of aluminum, and a little ding to the lower right of the charging handle where the receiver bells out to match the ring for the lower extension.

Damn shame, about the dings, this thing looked unissued when I pulled it out of the packing, too. It'll clean up like new, though.
1/8/2009 9:56:43 AM EDT
[#40]
Wish I had something to report, guys. I just got home a minute ago from lunch and found a UPS notice. UPS never gets to me before 4. Why today? Geez. Tomorrow, tomorrow...

Sounds like you got a really nice barrel, Mark. Shame to hear about the dings. That seems to be the way it is with these, though. Just can't get a mint one...
1/8/2009 10:22:39 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
Wish I had something to report, guys. I just got home a minute ago from lunch and found a UPS notice. UPS never gets to me before 4. Why today? Geez. Tomorrow, tomorrow...

Sounds like you got a really nice barrel, Mark. Shame to hear about the dings. That seems to be the way it is with these, though. Just can't get a mint one...


That's cool though, I've got 2 other uppers here that are like new. And the one I got today will be when I finish with it.
1/8/2009 10:33:50 AM EDT
[#42]
That's the spirit!
1/8/2009 10:55:05 AM EDT
[#43]
If you didn't already know these are all sold out.  I called them just now and they will find out later next week if they will get more.  The nice lady put my name on a waiting list and will call if they get some more in.
1/8/2009 8:10:41 PM EDT
[#44]
Just unwrapped mine. Looks to be identical to Marks above. Cmpc, smooth forged FSB, left hg is flat & exc the right is shiny but has two "teeth" missing, left has drain holes right does not. The slip ring is park'd not black. Receiver looks to have original finish; perfect on the left side with the right sides patina turning to a blackish hue near the bottom. The receiver pin lugs are black. Proof marks on the receiver are a triangle w/p & a C inside a square. The barrel has chrome extending out onto the feed ramps. Just removed the guards(easier than A2 for sure), barrel has no other markings and is rust free. Stainless gas tube. This piece has been fired but is very clean, a little tale tale residue at the gas tube end. Well thats about it. No damage of note. Just storage marks etc. Perfect bore. What does it sound like we have here guys? Original or rebarreled early upper? Did the early slab side uppers come with this type setup? If so whats the ideal lower? I notice the forward push pin hole is counterbored for the non captive pin.

Update* Based on what I gathered at Retro Black Rifle this looks to possibly be an AF 604. It all fits, codes, barrel etc. Kinda cool since I'm an AF vet. Late model barrel would indicate A1 lower, otherwise XM is approriate, correct? Oh and it looks killer with the set of mottled handguards I had laying around for like 20 years!
1/9/2009 9:22:51 AM EDT
[#45]
Got two with birdcages.  C MP C marked.  Very happy camper.
1/9/2009 10:06:22 AM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
Just unwrapped mine. Looks to be identical to Marks above. Cmpc, smooth forged FSB, left hg is flat & exc the right is shiny but has two "teeth" missing, left has drain holes right does not. The slip ring is park'd not black. Receiver looks to have original finish; perfect on the left side with the right sides patina turning to a blackish hue near the bottom. The receiver pin lugs are black. Proof marks on the receiver are a triangle w/p & a C inside a square. The barrel has chrome extending out onto the feed ramps. Just removed the guards(easier than A2 for sure), barrel has no other markings and is rust free. Stainless gas tube. This piece has been fired but is very clean, a little tale tale residue at the gas tube end. Well thats about it. No damage of note. Just storage marks etc. Perfect bore. What does it sound like we have here guys? Original or rebarreled early upper? Did the early slab side uppers come with this type setup? If so whats the ideal lower? I notice the forward push pin hole is counterbored for the non captive pin.

Update* Based on what I gathered at Retro Black Rifle this looks to possibly be an AF 604. It all fits, codes, barrel etc. Kinda cool since I'm an AF vet. Late model barrel would indicate A1 lower, otherwise XM is approriate, correct? Oh and it looks killer with the set of mottled handguards I had laying around for like 20 years!


You're correct. USAF 604, also called just plain ol' M16. A1 lower is correct, unless you want to build an 'early' 604. That would require a 3-prong flash hider, XM16E1 partial fence lower, and dimpled pins.
1/9/2009 11:32:42 AM EDT
[#47]
Thanks. I'm leaning toward earlier XM. Love the look! Think I'll leave the upper in its natural patina also.
1/9/2009 3:00:23 PM EDT
[#48]
I got mine today- it's black. I mean, really black- it almost matches my RRA lower perfectly. Too bad it's not going on a RRA lower.

Guess it doesn't matter- makes the decision to send it out for refinish that much easier. I would take pics, but it's too late here...
1/10/2009 2:32:11 AM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
I got mine today- it's black. I mean, really black- it almost matches my RRA lower perfectly. Too bad it's not going on a RRA lower.

Guess it doesn't matter- makes the decision to send it out for refinish that much easier. I would take pics, but it's too late here...


I Tried mine on a new RRA complete lower I've got and no joy. The rear pin works but you can see the front is a hair off and there is a gap at the rear. But talk about perfect match; I then tried it on my preban Eagle Arms 20" H-Bar's lower and wham! Perfect fit and color match. Thats one of the great things about the old
Eagles/Armalites, that old school Colt gray they came in. No matter either way though as its getting a Spudmiester XM lower eventually. The RRA is going to get a dizzie upper. And if my Spikes pistol lower ever shows.....................................................
1/13/2009 4:13:14 AM EDT
[#50]
Pics of the 604 upper on my EA H-Bars lower:



3/4 shot with M-16 A1 trapdoor added for effect.

In this shot you can kinda see where the park is thinning to reveal the anodizing beneath on the lower part of the upper.

Pretty dang close color match. Perfect finish on this side.

Nice original barrel. Cleaner than the guns on my rack for sure!
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