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Posted: 1/9/2010 10:38:44 AM EDT
| Just read an interesting story. Guy stated with an inexpensive AR 15 $750.00 and by the time he got it to a decent working rifle he had spent $1,500.00 + and he still had an inexpensive rifle outfitted with expensive parts. Why? For $1,500.00 he could have bought a name brand AR 15 which would retain its value. |
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What is this value you are speaking of? Why does one brand "retain" any value? Used guns seem like cars to me....
Plus, you don't mention what he spent $1500 on. was it a single ACOG that costs $1400 plus a new grip? Or did he swap out the barrel, upper, lower..etc and effectvely change out the whole gun? We'd need to know what $1500 got him and what he started with. |
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Added GG&G iron sights (AR did not come with sights), add GAT, changed the stock to a DUO stock, changed the rails to Omega rails, changed the grip to an Ergo Grip, change the latch to a Gen II Tactical Latch changed the trigger to a Geissele trigger, replaced the magazines to C Products Magazines. Granted all these changes do make for a better rifle but for the $1,500.00 + he still had a $750.00 with over $750.00 in added parts. Yes he added other goodies which we all add to our rifles, a good light, a good optic etc. but I did not include those additions in the cost.
You can for example start with a Colt LE1640 for around $1,500.00 which has most of the items he added. Note: Just an example there are other name brand products which also have the added features for about the same price. I just want to know why? |
| Because one can start with the rifle of their choosing & add the parts of their choosing without being stuck with parts from a particular manufacturer or proprietary parts. The 6940 may have been the same price as what this guy ended up spending but at least he got to add the parts he wanted to get to that price. Make sense? The only other way to answer your question would be to contact the person that you're referring to from the story & ask him why he did what he did. |
| Because not everyone has $1500 to drop at one time. This is why the AR platform is so nice. You can buy them one part at a time and yes you will end up in the same place at the end but if your in no hurry you can have a pretty damn nice gun by the time your finished and it's exactly as you want it. I don't think there are to many people worried about resale value. The only reason I could think of for selling your guns is if you really need the money to survive. |
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Quoted: Getting the firearm is the biggest step. Even a stripped lower is a huge step. Having the rest of the gun shipped to your door is great. He decided that $750 was his max single purchase, and still had a fully functional gun from that point until completion. Sure, in the long run, he may have only had to spend $1100, but he might have had to wait a good while. Added GG&G iron sights (AR did not come with sights), add GAT, changed the stock to a DUO stock, changed the rails to Omega rails, changed the grip to an Ergo Grip, change the latch to a Gen II Tactical Latch changed the trigger to a Geissele trigger, replaced the magazines to C Products Magazines. Granted all these changes do make for a better rifle but for the $1,500.00 + he still had a $750.00 with over $750.00 in added parts. Yes he added other goodies which we all add to our rifles, a good light, a good optic etc. but I did not include those additions in the cost. You can for example start with a Colt LE1640 for around $1,500.00 which has most of the items he added. Note: Just an example there are other name brand products which also have the added features for about the same price. I just want to know why? |
| I'm buiding mine slow and steady. I've spent about a grand and only have a lower, stock, upper and charging handle, I could have had a new rifle for that price, except I'll save some by building it slow and steady and not having to buy the complete rifle for a few pieces. |
im takin my sweet ass time as well. spent $1,560 last week on mt LMT CQB MRP piston upper. im in the process of buying a black rain ordnance lower this week. in the next few weeks ill be buying my troy fold down sights, UBR stock, geiselle ssa 2 stage trigger, caa upg 16 grip, and then i can FINALLY shoot the fucker 
patience isnt really my virtue, but when all is said and done it will make it all the more worth it. id rather take my time and get EXACTLY what i want than compromise and not be satisfied. ive wanted one of these my whole life, im stoked that its finally time |
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Because building an AR-15 rifle so much fun. The rifle is so modular that you can build it simple then add things easily or configure them easily. Plus you'll learn the rifle better by building. You can really build a good rifle without huge initial cash out. The only rifle I would buy a complete rifle is a Colt Mil-Spec or an FN Mil-Spec. For the sake of being a Mil-Spec. Others i will build and you could even build a rifle so much better than Mi-Spec. |
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I bought a Doublestar for $650, then once I stared looking into all the parts I wanted to change, I decided to build another rifle instead.
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Frankly I almost never actually figure out what the final cost of an AR might be. I'll bet I'm not alone. Yeah, I started out with a spreadsheet with links to all of the products, and it started out around $650...no clue where I'm at now (don't want to know). |
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My "spreadsheet" for my first build, being what I can only assume is quite meager by comparison to some builds gives me and end cost of $975...
If I were to add everything to it that would make it "semi-complete", the rifle's cost would, without a doubt, go well over $3000.00. Spending $975 puts me in at the ground floor, where I'll be perfectly happy for some time to come - I will purchase the "upgrades" as time progresses, and eventually, as stated above, probably only need a new lower to complete a second "ground floor" rifle. *edit* Re-reading the initial post, I can only assume that by saying "retain its value", you mean to say that it would retain its worth due to the fact that it is branded with a major manufacturer's label, making it more attractive (possibly?) to future buyers, rather than a firearm that was built using quality parts from several different manufacturers. I would agree with you if this was what you intended to convey. It seems that lesser-educated consumers tend to gravitate towards "big names" when it comes to purchasing anything, rather than doing a bit of research. Patience is always key in the purchase of firearms - I've had my share of "impulse buys", and they have always come back to snap me in the ass. |
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