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11/7/2005 9:04:37 PM EDT
I've read a lot of good info here, great site.  But I haven't found anything that states both the pro's, and con's of free floating an AR.  I know it helps the accuracy.   But can anyone list all the  Pro's and Con's of free floating vs not free floating the barrel?

Thanks in advance.
11/7/2005 10:17:15 PM EDT
[#1]
I can't think of any con's of why not to free float a barrel if at all possible on any firearm.  

A barrel that is not free floating is acting on the faith that anything touching the barrel (e.i. stock, forearm ect) is not going to change.  Such as movement from the stock being replaced in a slightly different position, or pressure changes do to leaning on a bi-pod affecting the stock, or weather changes that could cause swelling in the stock.  (Some of these may not apply to an AR-15 like swelling.)

If you can free float it...Do it  Your rifle will love you for it and it will show on the paper too.
11/8/2005 8:40:39 AM EDT
[#2]
Thanks,  I was wondering about the durability of the rifle when free floated, but after looking at the exploded views on this site it doesn't look like the handguards provide much support.  I am planning an AR15 build and looking at all the possibilities.

11/8/2005 8:48:52 AM EDT
[#3]
For me personaly, find the FF tube made maintence more of a pain.

But maybe it was the perticular FF tube I had.
11/8/2005 9:01:45 AM EDT
[#4]
and if your in the "jungle" all sorts of crap can get in the tube.
leaves, little sticks, dirt.  bugs.  it's a real drag to clean.
11/8/2005 9:37:48 AM EDT
[#5]

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and if your in the "jungle" all sorts of crap can get in the tube.
leaves, little sticks, dirt.  bugs.  it's a real drag to clean.



Very true.................
11/8/2005 9:40:10 AM EDT
[#6]

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For me personaly, find the FF tube made maintence more of a pain.

But maybe it was the perticular FF tube I had.




???? How?   What is is that you are trying to maintain that a FF tube makes harder??
11/8/2005 10:57:12 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
For me personaly, find the FF tube made maintence more of a pain.

But maybe it was the perticular FF tube I had.




???? How?   What is is that you are trying to maintain that a FF tube makes harder??




Adding:  Maintenance of what?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?
11/8/2005 11:16:59 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

Quoted:

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For me personaly, find the FF tube made maintence more of a pain.

But maybe it was the perticular FF tube I had.




???? How?   What is is that you are trying to maintain that a FF tube makes harder??




Adding:  Maintenance of what?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?





keeping the barrel under the handguards nice and shinny!
11/8/2005 12:06:23 PM EDT
[#9]

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keeping the barrel under the handguards nice and shinny!






GEAR QUEER ALERT!!
11/8/2005 12:23:41 PM EDT
[#10]

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keeping the barrel under the handguards nice and shinny!






GEAR QUEER ALERT!!

11/8/2005 2:17:58 PM EDT
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11/8/2005 2:18:30 PM EDT
[#12]

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keeping the barrel under the handguards nice and shinny!






GEAR QUEER ALERT!!





Hey!
11/8/2005 2:25:05 PM EDT
[#13]
haha

The only downer I consider is that they are mostly a pain in the ass to install compaired to the snap in non-ff kind.
11/8/2005 2:26:59 PM EDT
[#14]
WTF Is there to maint under the damn handguard?


If you sustain fire an alum handguard does get a little warm though.  


I just looked again,  I dont see a damn thing to clean under the handguard

I mean really,  show me what I need to clean under this!!
11/8/2005 2:38:49 PM EDT
[#15]
Well, it would probably be good to keep a coat of oil on the barrel under the tube.  I am thinking if it gets wet in particular, you would want to dry and oil it.  Oil is a good thing in any case.
11/8/2005 3:14:44 PM EDT
[#16]
Conventional rifles with sporter weight barrels may be more accurate with the barrel suppported by the stock, with a variety of ammunition.  With ammo tuned to the barrel harmomics, usually floated barrels make repeatable accuracy more likely.

The heavier the barrel the less difference it makes but heavy barrels have no draw-backs to being unsupported if the action is strong enough.

AR 15s I'm not sure of since I've never had other than free-float and do not know how much support the regular handguards can provide.

When using slings or anything that stresses the stock floating or a very rigid stock reduces point-of impact changes.

Regards,
Mild Bill



11/9/2005 9:05:58 AM EDT
[#17]
I'd say float it.  If you need or want a bit a access Sherluck makes a swirl cut hand guard that you could flush water/cleaner thru and spray the barrel with oil.

Here's a pic of a National match style CAR HG I built up.



For a pencil profile barrel I think a float tube makes a big difference in accuracy, just me.
11/9/2005 10:50:20 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
Well, it would probably be good to keep a coat of oil on the barrel under the tube.



+1000 for keeping it oiled under the tube.  Rust is no friend to the rifle.  

Use the Q-tip-through-the-vent-holes oiling method and learn to love the little white fuzzies it leaves under there.  When those fuzzies disappear, it's time to re-oil.  
11/10/2005 10:48:44 AM EDT
[#19]
Give under the barrel 10 coats of rustoleum and then wash it with a hose.
11/11/2005 3:05:23 PM EDT
[#20]
here is part of one of my prev post to see how the JP works,  couldnt send all of this in an IM



Sorry the pics suck,  spankin new high tech camera  ($350)  and trying to get takin pics right.  
The 2 piece barrel nut.


You Locktite this piece on


Thie piece wedges the barrel in,  



hmmm


Pics with tube on upper,   Sorry no barrel,  Gotta go to Cisco to use an upper clamp.  
















Heres some pics from JP's Website,  








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