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Posted: 10/22/2004 7:32:21 PM EDT
| I just went to a gun show this weekend.I purchased 500 rounds of wolf ammo ....To test fire thru my no ban ar 15. A brand new gun...I found that there was no coating on the bullets what so ever maybe after all the compliants they are listening..No jam No miss feed etc.Great they finally got the point...I hope it stays this way because wolf has the best price for plinking ammo.. |
| Don't want to offend anyone here but why the hell would anyone here put Wolf thru their AR? It's crap ammo with documented uneven powder charges, dirtiest ammo when it comes to cleaning and that laquer will build up in the chamber. Go buy some plane jane Winchester USA in .62 grain and support an American company. |
Read the first line in IPSC_GUY's post. That pretty much explanes it all. Besides an AR is just a machine, it's not some "lets place it on a pedistal and pay homage to it" thing. Who cares if it gets dirty, it will get cleaned. I and many others have never had any problems with laquer build up in the chamber, and now with the polymer coating we never will. And if a round does get stuck in the chamber, it isn't the end of the world or mean that the gun is trash. You take it home and knock it out, clean it up and take it out next week. Uneven powder charges, ya they do, but who cares, it's blasting ammo not match. |
No Wolf for U = More for me The $$ I save on plinking Ammo = More BLING BLING Stuff |
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I ran 1500 rds of Wolf Polymer through a 16 over two days at a FA shoot. It's a bit dirtier than the SA I'd been using. It also seems perceptibly lower in recoil. We had zero stoppages, though, except those attributable to my crappy Orlites. I subsequently bought 5k and will be picking up another 10 k soon. I get the impression that those that bash Wolf haven't tried it. Sam |
I've shot 10,000 rounds of Wolf through my Oly AR. It works just fine for plinking. For the price difference, I could buy a new upper every year and yet the first barrel looks perfect. If I want to punch paper, Wolf isn't any good. I have my own custom load for that. For shooting cans, it's just fine. Don't buy into the urban myths from the experts that have never used the stuff. 99% of it is BS. |
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Just went through 250 rounds of Wolf Polymer 62gr FMJ, mostly very rapid fire. DPMS 11.5" A2 upper on an EA15 Coal Valley lower with match trigger. Not a single problem. Granted I keep M193 loaded at home for SHTF/home defense/homeland defense purposes, but IMO those who refuse to buy this stuff for plinking or blasting are just being snobs. It's good stuff for the price. (paid $62 for 500 rounds, that's about a dime a round.) |
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A little uptight beerbellybo? Whats the matter, did your left hand turn ya down this evening. Last I checked I didn't disrespect you by calling you a dumb ass so fuck you shithead! I haven't shot Wolf in quite some time so I guess that I wouldn't know it's not laquered anymore. There is a difference between the slimy-sooty fowling that Wolf leaves behind vs what is left behind by by quality american made ball or stick powder. Pay the extra dollar fifty cheap ass and support an American company. Your probably a freakin Kerry supporter who bitches about out-sourcing and then goes and buys foreign ammo. |
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Minute of basketball is about what I get from it too. I put a scope on my DPMS this week and wanted to use Wolf to get close and then a better ammo to really zero in. Well that was futile... at 100 yards. Wolf was all over the black. Looked like a shotgun hit at that range. My experiance was: Wolf - 4" to 5" @ 100yards. Black Hills 69gr SMK - about 1.8" @ 100yards. Winchester Supreme 55gr Silver Tip - about 1" @ 100yards. At $0.90 per round the winchester is not practical for any type of volume shooting but damn that's the best my rifle has ever done. Black hills is better but I'm not getting the wonderous results that other people report from it. I can shoot close to the same with Q3131A. Unless *reman* Black Hills isn't as good. Wolf... now it's entirely useless for target shooting at greater than 50 yards. My SKS can out shoot that shit. However it works for practical CQB shoots where targets are rarely past 50 yards, and for making noise and having fun. No need to pay a higher cost if that's all you're doing. As far as function... 3 stuck cases in about 3000 rounds. Filthy chamber was the culprit 2 times. A case that didn't shrink back was the other and it was a mo-fo to clear. All others failures were with my crappy 20 round mags, never had a feeding problem with good 30 rounders. |
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Well I have shot 500 rounds of this new wolf stuff with out cleaning my gun .. No red stripe on bullet no coating on case..Not like I had a problem before at all in my colt pre ban made in 90..Then shot 200 rounds of winchester white box very little difference in bullet drop not enough to complian about at all..In fact it was prob Me moving or diff range conditions <eg wind I shot this on diff days different results> All winchester and wolf and barnul in the red at 100 yards...A bench rest would explain it better but dont have one to lock the riffle down.. I cleaned my gun after all that lol..This was just a test...I feed my new no ban all types of ammo to see what it likes..I also fed it barnul ammo this is the same as wolf with the red stripe and coatings on it.. And so far Im lucky.. Armalite M4 soldier of fortune model no ban with all the ban no oh no a bad gun added to it from the factory with a colapsable stock 16 inch barrell kerry beware...Awb has been resolved and this gun is new in pre ban format all the GOODIES LOL..Ps my pre ban colt sport match hbar eats anything I throw at it and so does this new ar made by armalite..So get a different gun I havent had any problems with any ammo I have tested.. Some are always the lucky ones...And we are always envyed.. |
I got two cases of Wolf 55 grain FMJ, shot 90 rounds sat. & sun. out of an 11", 1-9" twist, .223 chambered barrel with open sights at 100 yards I could easly keep'em in three inchs. I was just resting the handguard on a spool of twine, so it wasn't really the best bench rest setup. This ammo is as accurate as anything I have ever shot, including varios surplus mil. ammo. No jams at all, and I was useing a USA, and Orlite mag. It should be noted that I was not shooting from a "dead cold" barrel, I am sure I could do better if the barrel where allowed to cool after each shot.
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Some rifles like it better than others, but I'll bet you can get far better results from even Q3131A. A target load it isn't but for $0.10 per round it's good practice ammo. |
Even though I do shoot wolf I wouldn't mind picking up some Q313A at that price where are you buying it. Thanks |
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What I look for in a Ar 15. Is that it will shoot anything.So far mine do.Ive heard stories of picky guns.If I had a ar 15 that wouldn't shoot all types of ammo .I would get rid of it.After all the Ar 15 is a survival riffle.And should be able to shoot anything. Ok picture this say youre in a combat sitiation your life is in danger you kill your enemy and search him only to find he has wolf ammo.Well you can't use it why you have a picky ar. See what im getting at.And if you have a picky gun makes ya wonder if its practical.Or tactical. You decide.If mine wont shoot anything but a certain brand or a few select.....Im getting a different ar 15..Or find out what the problem really is... Whether it be a magazine or a barrell etc..Just a thought.. A SURVIVAL WEAPON AR 15 |
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We have shot an awful lot of Wolf ammo in our ARs. Some ARs with tight chambers don't like it, and the steel case does wear the extractors more quickly, as in about 2K rounds instead of 3K. Velocity on the 62 grain load is a little slow, like 2650 to 2700 FPS, and the best I have ever gotten for grup has been about 2" or a little more. For plinking, training, and CQB type stuff it's fine. I'll be buying more, no doubt. Ops |
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