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Posted: 1/25/2005 7:55:50 AM EDT
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do you think that wolf is underpowered or is the domestically produced ammo XM193, M193 & Q3131A just loaded hot or is it a little bit of both? |
Compared to the question asked, yes Wolf is "underpowered" when compared to NATO pressure ammunition. I have not shot it so, I can't say how it compares to Remington, Federal or Winchester SAAMI spec ammunition in a similar weighted round. Mike |
 If thats how you feel then you should just switch to 22 long rifle  |
Well I wouldn't let you swing a waffle iron at my head as hard as you can for $ 1,000,000 either, does that mean you're going to start carrying one around in a holster? |
Never seen that happen. Maybe you have a special "Alchemy" upper which strips the polymer coating off the cases, and then turns the steel into brass. 
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 I can picture the photoshop |
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The question referred to AR15/M16 223/5.56 rounds if I understood it correctly........ I wasn't aware I was speaking of 7.62 NATO vs SAAMI spec rounds with my statement above, so nice of ya to change the subject and point out the fact I left off "in 223/5.56 rounds" to my statement above......  Mike ps - Thanks so much for reminding me there's one in every crowd.....
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| I don't have a chronograph but every reload I have made for my bushy cycled the action. I just got 1000rd wolf polymer 62g FMJ and it will not work in the gun. I won't buy any more. Every thing but the two kinds of Russian ammo I have purchased has worked in my Bushmaster. |
   Excellent point. Should put that analogy to bed. |
Sorry Mike, wasn't trying to be a smart ass at all. There's just so many people that say different things and I was trying to separate fact from fiction - that's all. |
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The max military/NATO pressures for 5.56mm ammo are higher than for SAAMI-compliant .223 Remington. The max pressures for SAAMI-compliant .308 Winchester are higher than for 7.62 NATO (but only a few, specifically-marked .308 loads exceed 7.62 NATO pressures; they will say "For Bolt-Action Rifles Only"). -Troy |
I always like these dumb comments. I wouldn't take a .22CB in my belly for a million $ either. Does that mean it's a good self defense round? |
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I posted earlier in this thread that Wolf is not functional in my Bushmaster .223. Well, it works after removing the wheel bearing grease from my buffer spring/tube. I fired about 130 rounds in 20 rd mags and one new 30 and all functioned fine. Accuracy was pretty good at 100 yards. Mostly 2moa at 100 yards with flyers that I can't explain. 500 yard and 600 yard shooting was not close to what I can do with xm193. |
What? $1,000,000 for a .22CB in the belly, and you would turn it down. What a puss.  But seriously a .22CB in the belly for a million $ come on who wouldnt. |
Yeah. I've heard that too. I don't mind the noise. Even if I did, the grease attracts dirt and debris, so I'd rather live with the noise. |
That's the new Wolf ammo..... it's not out yet. It has solid rocket fuel in the base of the bullet, much like a tracer. Ignited by the powder charge... it kicks in right at around ~2900FPS to keep the projectile in the perfect fragmentation range....out to 500 yds or so. |
I thought it would only go that fast if it were fired from a gun that was simultaniously being fired out of a howitzer.... |
When is this ammo supposed to come out? I am in need of some new Wolf .223 ammo, but might wait a bit if this info is true. Wes |
Wes, The rep told me that the new lots are already here. He went out of his way to tell me this, as I was more interested in hearing about the new 147 gr 9mm load. Still, it's hard to say what this means to the consumer, as wholesalers likely have inventory of the old stuff. Given how popular the stuff has become I'd say wait as long as you can and buy a small lot and chrono it yourself. Personally, I'm happier with the slower stuff. It functions perfectly in my 16s. And since it's not SHTF ammo anyway, I'd just as soon run slower/kinder/gentler stuff through RRs. Sam |
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Where can I buy a holster for a waffle iron? I have shot a lot of wolf through my bushy with no problems, but I am usually just messing around (cheap since I am buying). When I shoot for score, I always use Federal through a Colt or Bushmaster...whatever the rangemaster has ready on range days (since they are buying). |
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Where can I buy a holster for a waffle iron? Attn: George Foreman Just Posted Holsters On His Web Site. I gotta get a pancake style myselfh.gif |
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