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11/9/2004 2:12:08 PM EDT
Hello,

 Looking for a decent rail forend that will accommidate at light and a grip.  I was leaning toward the First Samco M33 guards in OD, but the YHM rail fore end that does not require gunsmithing looks good as well.  There is about a $40 price difference.  What I want to know is, are the YHM in spec enough to use with a Tango Down vertical grip and maglite?  As a third option, are there any other rail fore ends that DO NOT require removal of barrel and gas block?  Thanks.

                                                       D-R
11/9/2004 2:15:47 PM EDT
[#1]
I had a decent experience iwth M33's, M44's seem to work well only with other FS gear, but YHM's look solid (read - METAL).  I have two on order.
11/9/2004 2:17:09 PM EDT
[#2]
YHM

best value in railed handguards yet
11/9/2004 2:30:18 PM EDT
[#3]
M33s are better than M44s but they will not accept a TD Vertical Fore-Grip (VFG).

The newer YHM hanguards will accept the TD VFG.

BTW DO NOT use a maglight for a weapon mounted light - the D &C units are too big & heavy and the AA sized units bulb's will come out under recoil (they are only held in by friction).

Spend the $30 and get a Surefire G2 at a minimum.
11/9/2004 3:16:17 PM EDT
[#4]
My YHM handguard works just fine.  Fits tight and looks good.  Got it from Bravo Company.

pic 1
pic 2

11/9/2004 3:20:31 PM EDT
[#5]
Between the two I would go with the YHM also give the Surefire M73 a look.
11/9/2004 3:34:08 PM EDT
[#6]
The YHM are totally 'in spec' you won't be dissapointed if you get them.
11/9/2004 3:36:21 PM EDT
[#7]
I've used both,  like the  quality of the YHM  handguard  best.


TG
11/9/2004 3:47:05 PM EDT
[#8]
Dupe thread, ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=19&t=209706
11/9/2004 3:49:20 PM EDT
[#9]
YHM

1st samco looks and feel cheap
11/9/2004 3:55:51 PM EDT
[#10]
+1 for YHM,  my 2-piece four rail handguards were the best addition I made to my BM M4gery.  The price was right (from Brightflashlights) and the fit and finish on this set was A+  I would definately buy again!
11/9/2004 5:26:33 PM EDT
[#11]
Sorry about the dupe thread, the YHM sounds good.  I thought I had heard rumors that they were out of spec or some such, but hey, they sound like the cat's meow for pretty much everything.  Oh, and regarding the Maglite: I should have specified the *modified* Maglite, using the momentary switch and LED conversion from Opalec.  This setup is as bulletproof as any Surefire I have ever seen/used, and uses AA.  If Surefire decided to make flashlights that could take AA (and their excuse that lithium lasts longer is fine, but there are AA lithiums availible), they would have my business.  Granted, the Surefire has more going for it in terms of accesories, cool features (built-in momentary switch, had to mod my Maglite), and being insanely rugged.  I just feel that the Maglite is able to do the job for me for now.  Thanks everyone, and PLEASE don't take this as a flame against Surefire.  
                                                      D-R
11/9/2004 5:37:06 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
YHM

best value in railed handguards yet



+1

M33&M44 are crap IMHO
11/9/2004 5:55:11 PM EDT
[#13]
Ive got the YHM on my bushy with a tango down vert grip mounted and it is as solid as a brick shithouse. Easy to install too.
11/9/2004 5:59:14 PM EDT
[#14]
+1 for the YHM.

GG&G, SureFire, and Troy Industries also make a rail that does not require removal of the FSB. Some of these may require removal of the delta ring, snap ring, and weld spring though.
11/9/2004 6:45:44 PM EDT
[#15]
The YHM are milled from aluminum and hard coat anodized, same as the receiver on your AR.  The First Samco are made of plastic.  
11/10/2004 5:08:06 AM EDT
[#16]
I have the YHM handguards on a non issue upper I have over here.  Maybe not as nice as a KAC rail system but really tops for the money.  I would think for the money the YHM is the way to go.  I think a lot of the First Samco plastic stuff is way overpriced.  
11/10/2004 5:26:51 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
I should have specified the *modified* Maglite, using the momentary switch and LED conversion from Opalec.  This setup is as bulletproof as any Surefire I have ever seen/used, and uses AA.


I'm familier with the Opalec modification, I use it in several of my Mini-Maglights.  Durability isn't an issue as you pointed out.

Which momentary switch are you using?  The tape switch or some kind of replacment push button tailcap?



If Surefire decided to make flashlights that could take AA (and their excuse that lithium lasts longer is fine, but there are AA lithiums availible), they would have my business.
 
While Surefire doesn't - there is another company that is starting production of an AA powered LED light that puts out 60-65 Lumens.

I should have one from the first production (due any day).  I will be posting a review when it arrives (and the cost is very reasonable).
11/10/2004 6:29:00 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

I should have one from the first production (due any day).  I will be posting a review when it arrives (and the cost is very reasonable).



I will be looking forward to it Forest!
11/10/2004 8:17:18 AM EDT
[#19]
I dicide for the extra money on my new LMT M4 to go with Troy MRF-C it is FF and looks a lot better than YHM and has T-numbers on all four sides and is even with my LMT flat-top.and is stamped MRF-C M4/203 PATENT PENDING on the side.I think it will take a Tango-Down, I hope so I should get it in the mail their vertical grip and pistol grip anyday now to put on my LMT M4.
11/10/2004 12:46:34 PM EDT
[#20]
Forest-

 I am using a nice little rubber tailcap switch from Flashlights.com., the one for the Streamlight Jr..  I actually bought two types, the Ram and this one.  The Ram had a little red plastic button, was ok, but the Flashlights.com is by far the better of the two.  Better feel, waterproof, and extremely inexpensive (I hesitate to say cheap, because it it not *cheap* feeling).  They are about four bucks, best money I ever spent on my light.  I always get comments on these babies, people seem astounded by their durability and convenience.  For mounting on a weapon, there is a tapeswitch that I am looking at, forget the maker.  Please let me know when those new lights come in!  Very interested!

 Supertrucker-

Do you have pictures?  How easy were they to install?  Cost?  Where did you find them?  Sounds very cool my friend!

                                                       D-R
11/13/2004 4:23:04 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
YHM

1st samco looks and feel cheap


+1
11/16/2004 10:06:21 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:

I should have one from the first production (due any day).  I will be posting a review when it arrives (and the cost is very reasonable).



I will be looking forward to it Forest!



For those of you looking for that review - I've got the preliminary one posted in the Lights & Lasers Forum
11/16/2004 10:16:04 AM EDT
[#23]
YHM, I have one on a 20"
11/16/2004 9:29:44 PM EDT
[#24]
YHM 2-piece, definitely.
I just put one on my shorty AR. Rock solid, good buy for the money.
Can't tell much difference in this handguard and the freefloat on my Bushmaster.
Easy to install, no tools required.
TD grip, Fobus flashlight mount, SOG grip all mount just fine.
11/16/2004 10:01:13 PM EDT
[#25]
yhm by far
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