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12/20/2007 5:21:07 AM EDT
I everyone I am new here. I was wondering if you could give me some insights on the ZM weapon LR300? How it shoots? Durability, reliability? How it swings side to side, etc...?

I can't find any information or feedback from people who actually handled the gun.

Thanks in advance!
Allen
12/20/2007 5:31:25 AM EDT
[#1]
Welcome

Contact Al Zitta at [email protected]
12/20/2007 5:57:39 AM EDT
[#2]
Allen Elishewitz?   the knife maker by any chance?

sorry, had to ask as i am something of a fan. truly fine work.
12/20/2007 6:51:01 AM EDT
[#3]
Yes, I am the knifemaker, thanks! I want real users' opinions not the manufacturer's opinion. The only thing I would get is this is the greatest gun in the world
12/20/2007 9:04:43 AM EDT
[#4]
cool!
its going to be difficult to not talk knives, (the Doru looks so sexy) but i'll give it a try.

so anyway, my personal experience with the lr300 is better than 10 years old. i purchased the kit after seeing it advertised in a gun rag, and ran it on a few different lowers without any problems.  as far as durability goes its good stuff, well made all around.  reliability wise its on par with any other AR. its only difference in operation from any other AR is that the setup utilizes an extended carrier key and a stubby gas tube. the idea is that the two separate out front under the handguard, instead of inside the upper to reduce the amount of carbon entering the upper.  
carbon still does get in there, nature of the beast, and as i said it has been awhile but i don't recall there being too much difference after a good day at the range.  my main interest was the side-folding stock. this, during a time when there weren't as many options in the AR world, it was standing out as something really different.

one of the reasons i sold it off was because the run of the mill AR15 was going in direction that a proprietary setup like this could not follow. for example, any other ar setup and i can change calibers by swapping uppers. with the lr300 a swap like this would also involve changing the stock and thus losing the primary reason for having it.

these days, with so many options to choose from, including true piston systems, and probably the biggest after market since the 1911. the short answer is that for the price you can do a lot better.

i'm sure that you will hear from others with more recent info than mine, and a different opinion to go with it.

oh, and welcome!


p.s. we have a knife forum too!
blades
12/20/2007 9:25:04 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
I everyone I am new here. I was wondering if you could give me some insights on the ZM weapon LR300? How it shoots? Durability, reliability? How it swings side to side, etc...?

I can't find any information or feedback from people who actually handled the gun.

Thanks in advance!
Allen


I've got an upper kit on a Bushmaster lower. I've got approximately 1500-2000 rounds through mine. Super accurate. I had some teething problems at first. Sent the upper back and 2 weeks later received it back. No issues since
12/20/2007 9:37:01 AM EDT
[#6]
Thank you for the BM Ares 732 and BM Nimravus 140 designs - my two favorites.

You are the man!



12/20/2007 9:38:44 AM EDT
[#7]
Welcome, Marine.

Former SOTG trained Marine here as well.

12/20/2007 11:45:22 AM EDT
[#8]
Allen just FYI, this site is doing a group buy on the LR 300 right now.  I was one of the first 20 people to receive this special edition numbered rifle.  I love the rifle.  It's noticeably heavier then an M4 but very solid and well made.  The folding stock is one of the sturdiest I've put my hands on.  This rifle is just as accurate as any other AR I own, and has about half the felt recoil.  

The way they're equipped they'd sell for $2200, but you can get an AR15.com rifle for $1395 right here:

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=122&t=526151

12/20/2007 12:47:43 PM EDT
[#9]
I really like mine - I have the kit on an old SGW lower, It has the superlight barrel profile - runs like a top, easy to clean/disassemble.

I believe these are made by YHM now,,,,





folds very compact right at the legal limit...
12/20/2007 5:15:30 PM EDT
[#10]
Ziti, That's cool! When did you go to SOTG? I went in 1991.

Who do you contact about the group buy ZM Weapons?

Thanks for all the info!
12/20/2007 5:33:50 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Ziti, That's cool! When did you go to SOTG? I went in 1991.

Who do you contact about the group buy ZM Weapons?

Thanks for all the info!


Crap..Late 1991..or early 1992 but before May of 1992 then I spent a alot of time with II SRIG as well, did a bunch of TRUE Ex's and evaluating NEO ops (I was a 2531 with the MEU, I was on the MSPF for 2 floats (TRAP and Sparrowhawk as well)..with the sat-com..) spent a lot of time with Force but not Force...banged out 4 med's prior to lat moving to swing with the wing.


ETA: Allen, I just sent you an invite for tws...take a look at it. Good stuff for us former Jarheads.


12/20/2007 7:29:21 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
I really like mine - I have the kit on an old SGW lower, It has the superlight barrel profile - runs like a top, easy to clean/disassemble.

I believe these are made by YHM now,,,,

i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/heron163/Guns/ZM1.jpg

i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/heron163/Guns/FoldedYHM1.jpg

folds very compact right at the legal limit...


I thought the 26" limit was with the stock extended. Please advise.
12/20/2007 7:36:32 PM EDT
[#13]
I would be interesting in seeing the BCG and the guts...anyone have any to share.

I hate this place, all I want to do is spend more money.

12/20/2007 7:47:29 PM EDT
[#14]
I liked the old FSB/gas block interface they had in the 1990s.

The one they have now with the clamping action looks cheesy.
12/20/2007 7:51:29 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I really like mine - I have the kit on an old SGW lower, It has the superlight barrel profile - runs like a top, easy to clean/disassemble.

I believe these are made by YHM now,,,,

i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/heron163/Guns/ZM1.jpg

i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/heron163/Guns/FoldedYHM1.jpg

folds very compact right at the legal limit...


I thought the 26" limit was with the stock extended. Please advise.


I believe it's 26" at it's shortest possible length to be legal.
12/20/2007 8:07:04 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
I would be interesting in seeing the BCG and the guts...anyone have any to share.

I hate this place, all I want to do is spend more money.



Here is an address for another thread with patent info, etc..

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=352486
12/21/2007 12:24:01 AM EDT
[#17]
Off topic, but Hi Allen, and welcome to Arfcom.
12/23/2007 12:08:35 AM EDT
[#18]
Welcome to ARFCOM Allen.
3/31/2008 7:50:53 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

The way they're equipped they'd sell for $2200, but you can get an AR15.com rifle for $1395 right here:

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=122&t=526151



I would give $1395 before the sun goes down.  However, the price I am finding is $1595.    
3/31/2008 8:07:40 AM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:


folds very compact right at the legal limit...



The legal limit is measured with the stock open
3/31/2008 8:41:28 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:


folds very compact right at the legal limit...



The legal limit is measured with the stock open


Incorrect.  The legal limit is measured the smallest you can make the weapon.  Stock retracted, folded or removed as the case may be, so long as the weapon can still operate.  
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