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2/10/2008 3:34:48 AM EDT
Ammo prices make me cry.

Convince me which .22 conversion kit to buy.

2/10/2008 4:52:43 AM EDT
[#1]
I just ordered a Ceiner kit. From what I can find out, it's the best. Better option would be a dedicated upper from Spikes. I couldn't afford that route, plust I wanted to use it in my SBR. Every one is on backorder now, at least that I could find. I orderd one from Delta Force. Supposed to be in the 15th. $149.95
2/10/2008 5:04:46 AM EDT
[#2]
Ceiner kit
2/10/2008 6:02:11 AM EDT
[#3]
Ceiner. I want to get another.




at 25 yds. with this.
2/10/2008 6:08:30 AM EDT
[#4]
Bronz-Does your post mean that you shot that group at 25 yards WITH the Cenier, or that you shot it with something else? I'm in the market for a 22 LR kit or upper also...
2/10/2008 8:14:41 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Bronz-Does your post mean that you shot that group at 25 yards WITH the Cenier, or that you shot it with something else? I'm in the market for a 22 LR kit or upper also...


Sorry Brother  

Yeah it was with a Ceiner installed kit. I got it from Brownells about a year ago. I want another one or two.
2/10/2008 8:31:10 AM EDT
[#6]
It is true the Ceiner is king.
2/10/2008 9:29:59 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
It is true the Ceiner is king.


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The king I don't know. I have never had a problem with mine.
2/10/2008 9:47:40 AM EDT
[#8]
What twist do you have in that barrel?
2/10/2008 10:00:58 AM EDT
[#9]



I like this so much, I am considering a AA for my Glock. I can basicly shoot for free.
2/11/2008 8:00:56 AM EDT
[#10]
height=8
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i127.photobucket.com/albums/p123/rock711/guns010.jpg


I like this so much, I am considering a AA for my Glock. I can basicly shoot for free.


How well do those subsonics perform in an AR conversion?  I keep wanting to build a 10.5" dedicated .22 upper and use my supressor on it, and exclusively run subsonics thru it, but Spikes suggested I go with a 5.5" barrel and run high velocity.  I keep reading mixed reviews on subsonics in the AR conversions.  Kind of has me leaning toward the new GSG in SBR, but an AR platform with give me more mileage (various uppers/calibers) with a tax stamp.
2/11/2008 8:25:53 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
It is true the Ceiner is king.




not hard to be king when there's not any competition to speak of

(for now.........)
2/11/2008 1:30:28 PM EDT
[#12]
Thanks
2/11/2008 4:06:33 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
i127.photobucket.com/albums/p123/rock711/guns010.jpg


I like this so much, I am considering a AA for my Glock. I can basicly shoot for free.


How well do those subsonics perform in an AR conversion?  I keep wanting to build a 10.5" dedicated .22 upper and use my supressor on it, and exclusively run subsonics thru it, but Spikes suggested I go with a 5.5" barrel and run high velocity.  I keep reading mixed reviews on subsonics in the AR conversions.  Kind of has me leaning toward the new GSG in SBR, but an AR platform with give me more mileage (various uppers/calibers) with a tax stamp.

I shoot CCI 40grn subs and Aguila 40grn subs withe my AR and a can.
You will need to do some polishing and better springs to make it run 100%
Here is some links to the Mods for the Ciener

http://home.netcom.com/~uzisubgun/id3.html


home.netcom.com/~uzisubgun/id9.html

Get your springs here
www.jbarms.citymax.com/catalog/item/3766994/3541941.htm
This AR22lr shoots 1/2 inch groups and less at 50 yrds.


2/11/2008 4:10:08 PM EDT
[#14]
lets just say you can shoot a case of ammo and after just laugh about it. Because you still have $200 in your wallet.
2/11/2008 4:18:53 PM EDT
[#15]
What twist are you guys using?
2/11/2008 4:48:40 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
What twist are you guys using?


1:16 twist
2/11/2008 5:48:59 PM EDT
[#17]
I'm using 1:12.
2/12/2008 4:03:09 AM EDT
[#18]
height=8
I shoot CCI 40grn subs and Aguila 40grn subs withe my AR and a can.
You will need to do some polishing and better springs to make it run 100%
Here is some links to the Mods for the Ciener

http://home.netcom.com/~uzisubgun/id3.html


home.netcom.com/~uzisubgun/id9.html

Get your springs here
www.jbarms.citymax.com/catalog/item/3766994/3541941.htm
This AR22lr shoots 1/2 inch groups and less at 50 yrds.

i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa166/redtazdog/22LRAR15small.jpg


If I modify the hammer spring as shown in the article, will it still be good for using my .223 upper?  I don't want to have to swap hammer springs everytime I switch over to centerfire.  If it becomes a problem, I'll just get me a dedicated .22LR lower too.
Thanks for the great info!
2/12/2008 6:09:43 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
I'm using 1:12.


+1
although I'm thinking about building another dedicated upper and going with 1:16
2/12/2008 9:28:31 AM EDT
[#20]
I heard a rumor that Tactical Solutions was going to be unveiling a .22lr AR upper of their own design at SHOT.  Anyone able to deny/confirm this?  These guys do a hell of a job with rimfire stuff in other platforms and I'd like to see what they can do for the AR.
2/12/2008 9:43:26 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
I heard a rumor that Tactical Solutions was going to be unveiling a .22lr AR upper of their own design at SHOT.  Anyone able to deny/confirm this?  These guys do a hell of a job with rimfire stuff in other platforms and I'd like to see what they can do for the AR.


It was there. It is a.......22 conversion. SS bolt.

jj

2/12/2008 9:50:48 AM EDT
[#22]
Does it use Black Dog magazines or something else?  Did they have .22lr lightweight, match-grade AR-specific barrels (please say yes)?  Price?
2/12/2008 10:01:21 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
Does it use Black Dog magazines or something else?  Did they have .22lr lightweight, match-grade AR-specific barrels (please say yes)?  Price?


BDM. As for the barrel, my tech partner will have to answer, but I think yes. price? Do not quote me, but, $499 seems to stick in my mind....

jj
2/12/2008 10:01:31 AM EDT
[#24]
how about a release date on that...
2/12/2008 10:12:39 AM EDT
[#25]
$499 for a conversion bolt or for a complete upper?

I just read in the 10/22 forum over in the Armory the the first batch of uppers from TacSol is sold out.  The post put three months as the estimated date for the next batch.
2/12/2008 10:20:06 AM EDT
[#26]

Quoted:
$499 for a conversion bolt or for a complete upper?

I just read in the 10/22 forum over in the Armory the the first batch of uppers from TacSol is sold out.  The post put three months as the estimated date for the next batch.


It's a complete upper.

2/12/2008 10:22:31 AM EDT
[#27]
I personally use a Ciener. The price is right, IMHO. I don't see spending $600+ for an upper to be able to shoot cheaper ammo, when it can be done with a cheaper Ciener.

I've ran literally thousands of rounds through my Ciener in an 11.5" 1/9 upper. Accurate enough for the shooting I do, and great fun suppressed.
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