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Posted: 9/12/2014 6:57:13 PM EDT
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Sorry if this is a repeat of an earlier post but I haven't been able to find anything else on the forum.
I'm looking to put some sort of optics on my AR (RRA LAR 15) for the first time. I had been thinking of a magnified red dot (~3x) but am also open to a scope with an illuminated reticle. I typically don't have the opportunity to shoot at much beyond 100 yards. I'd love to hear opinions/suggestions for either around $300 (with some price flexibility), and why one approach is better than the other. |
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you can have one or the other anything else is a compromise . a true red dot like an aimpoint has unlimited field of view zero parallax and liberal eye relief the down side they dont lend themself to precision shooting much past 100 yds . somebody will argue different and be able to shoot 2 inch groups at 200 yds with one . I havent seen it . the 1x4 power magnified optic will give you a beteer shot at longer range but comes with eye relief and field of view restrictions .
you can buy 1x4 scopes with illumination and turn the magnification down to gain better field of view and use it like a red dot with those limitations . the leupold mkar mod1 with a fire dot reticle sounds like it will hit right in the middle of what you are asking for . every body who has one says the fire dot is visible in day light hours and it should be pretty fast . lookhere If you just want a red dot its hard to beat an aimpoint pro , they can be had for less than 400 dollars if you watch for sales. |
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Here's what I put on one of my rifles. It's not tier 1, but the price was right. I got the red dot and the 4-9 power scope in one neat little package. http://www.deltateamtactical.com/assets/images/NcStarSight2.JPG I think most will agree not to waste 120.00 on the NCstar. |
| Get a low power Leupold tactical scope with the Firedot illuminated SPR reticle. Either the one inch tube 1.5x20mm Mark AR, or the 30mm main tube 1.25-4x20 VX-R Patrol. Excellent up close and in low light. Motion activated dot, true, accurate milrad turrets and milrad subtension marks in the circle dot reticle. These will cost about $450 and $600 respectively, but you get both a red dot and a high quality magnified scope. |
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Sorry if this is a repeat of an earlier post but I haven't been able to find anything else on the forum. I'm looking to put some sort of optics on my AR (RRA LAR 15) for the first time. I had been thinking of a magnified red dot (~3x) but am also open to a scope with an illuminated reticle. I typically don't have the opportunity to shoot at much beyond 100 yards. I'd love to hear opinions/suggestions for either around $300 (with some price flexibility), and why one approach is better than the other. If you want a home defense optic along with range use out to 100 yards I would suggest an aim point pro. If you want range use and magnification vortex, primary arms, Burris, leupold, and Bushnell offer decent options that are worth consideration for close to your price point. |
| I have both on different guns. Both are fun to shoot and both have their advantages. The best of both worlds is an Elcan way out of your price range. For $200 you can get a 1-4 Bushnell with throw down handle . I have shot it with both eyes open at 1x and it works pretty darn good. At 4x and bipod shoots as well as any other 4x scope at 100 yards. |
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I have both on different guns. Both are fun to shoot and both have their advantages. The best of both worlds is an Elcan way out of your price range. For $200 you can get a 1-4 Bushnell with throw down handle . I have shot it with both eyes open at 1x and it works pretty darn good. At 4x and bipod shoots as well as any other 4x scope at 100 yards. I'm leaning towards the Bushnell 1-4x. Has anyone every mounted it on an AR with a fixed front sight? Any advice/good mounts for making sure the front post doesn't block at 1x? |
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I'm leaning towards the Bushnell 1-4x. Has anyone every mounted it on an AR with a fixed front sight? Any advice/good mounts for making sure the front post doesn't block at 1x? Quoted:
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I have both on different guns. Both are fun to shoot and both have their advantages. The best of both worlds is an Elcan way out of your price range. For $200 you can get a 1-4 Bushnell with throw down handle . I have shot it with both eyes open at 1x and it works pretty darn good. At 4x and bipod shoots as well as any other 4x scope at 100 yards. I'm leaning towards the Bushnell 1-4x. Has anyone every mounted it on an AR with a fixed front sight? Any advice/good mounts for making sure the front post doesn't block at 1x? It is there but no big deal, just like with a red dot sight you can ignore the FSP. When you turn up the magnification you'll see a little blur/shadow if you look for it but when looking at the target I don't even notice it. |
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Quoted: I think most will agree not to waste 120.00 on the NCstar. Quoted: Quoted: Here's what I put on one of my rifles. It's not tier 1, but the price was right. I got the red dot and the 4-9 power scope in one neat little package. http://www.deltateamtactical.com/assets/images/NcStarSight2.JPG I think most will agree not to waste 120.00 on the NCstar. |
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I think a 1x_6x or 4x would give you the bet of both worlds No. Ncstar is absolute shit. Might as well burn your money. If you want to go cheap, look at primary arms. You can get a Weaver 1-3 (japan made, good glass) for around 150 used which is light years ahead of shitty junk NcStar and the like. |
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http://www.opticsplanet.com/leatherwood-cmr-series-hi-lux-1-4x24-riflescope.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=plusbox-beta&gclid=CL6Vqayo6MACFcRzMgodBjUAXg
I've had this since they came out a couple years back. Very nice glass for the money and pretty durable. |
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Primary Arms is your best bet for a <$200 optic. There are red dots you can get, and magnifiers, or you can get a variable powered 1-4 or 1-6 scope on the cheap.
Here is a Primary Armsred dot, that you can add a 3x magnifier and a magnifier flip-mount for a total under $300. Much better quality than anything else you can find in that range. Or Get one of these Primary Arms 1-6x when they come back in stock. You can add a mount for a total under $300. Again, best value you can find at that price. I just got a cheap Vortex Crossfire II 1-4x with mount for $289. Thats also an option, with lifetime warrantee |
| Before you make a decision, go to a store that carries several scopes of the type you want. I found that red dots and holos don't work well with my eyes due to astigmatism. You can also compare the relative differences of a high end vs. mid grade dot or scope and see if the price difference is worth it to you or not. While you are checking out the various red dots and low power zooms, take a peek at the prismatic scopes. They lie somewhere between red dots and scopes and have some of the best features of both. For me these were the best choices and wound up with a Vortex Spitfire. BTW, if you decide to save up for an Aimpoint Pro, you can buy it from LaRue with one of their excellent QD mounts for the same price as just the scope everywhere else. |
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Primary Arms 2.5X Compact Scope
Good little scope with a nice illuminated reticle for @ $200 Better yet the company that sells these and the man who will stand behind it are both impeccable.....(that means honest as the day as long) Go over to their industry forum and you can talk to him about this scope and their other offerings |
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Burris 5x Prism sight $202 after MIR
http://www.slickguns.com/product/burris-ar-536-5x36-sight-33999 |
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Burris 5x Prism sight $202 after MIR http://www.slickguns.com/product/burris-ar-536-5x36-sight-33999 Would that 5x fixed magnification focus at close range, say inside one's home at 30 feet or less? This is where a low power variable scope with illuminated reticle could serve double duty with home defense and with precision shooting at the range or medium distance tactical use. And isn't that optic a bit heavy? 1.2 pounds, that is what, 19 ounces? Heck, the Leupold Mark AR 1.5-4 is only 9.6 ounces, half its weight. Put it is a the typical high grade QD mount at about 6-8 ounces, and you are still very much lighter. Put in lightweight fixed mounts, like Aero Precision and it is way lighter. I understand that its price is much less, but that would be just about the only benefit I see. |
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I actually bought the scope as well about a year and half ago, the price was definitely right. But unfortunately hat was the only thing that was right about it, the quality was extremely low, ended up just taking the red dot off the top and just using the scope ago style but then it started to basically come about over time as I used.
I had it mounted on an ar15 so its no like there was huge vibrations going through it or anything like that. But it does have a cool tactical look to it I'll give it that much. I would suggest looking into a Leupold or Trijicon, they are certainly a little more pricy but I got mine at qualityoptics.net and their prices were really low, lower then cheaper then dirt or optics planet. either way a good optics is worth a little investment. https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1899899_434695833328206_766725274_n.jpg?oh=1a73e22faf0836d22f50f65fc4c95b61&oe=54914759&__gda__=1418029328_8a0ae013221c2ecf6e23217590eb7d85 You can see in the image that elevation nob is missing he outer dial. |
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