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Posted: 4/18/2006 6:24:47 PM EDT
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Check out this link: http://www.lamperdlesslethal.com/product_details.asp?ID=95 This is a new upper that shoots .50 caliber "Less Lethal" ammo! It's very accurate out to 40 yds! Works with standard AR lower. And you can shoot it in your basement! NR |
No I'm not selling these,I tried one and was very impressed, so I have ordered one. I have never been comfortable with any "Less Lethal" option during building entry tactics until I found this system. A mere 15 degree angle will determine if the shot is lethal or less lethal, head shot opposed to a body shot. I placed 3 rounds in a 2" group at 25 yards. That is very accurate for less lethal. With the .50 AR upper, it is very versitile, quiet, and I can shoot it in my basement! NR |
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Well, call me old fashioned.... I don't know if I would want to purchase firearm related items from a company with 'less lethal' in the name. I would not buy ammo from the Powderpuff Ammo Co., either. Of course, I live in rural Texas, and if I need to use one of my weapons, I am not looking to wound or cripple anyone/anything. Now, I do have a couple of BB guns. I consider them 'less lethal'.  |
BB guns are less lethal, till you crank em up to about 4000 fps and a rate of fire of about 2000 per minute, and then you have a real BB "Block Buster" Gun. I have other needs for the "Less Lethal" AR platform, that same round which is "Less Lethal" at 400 fps, becomes very lethal at 1400 fps with no collateral damage. As in sensitive equipment. It's just a matter of "Form to Function" NR |
I'm really not sure why I am even responding, but the next time I am faced with a charging rhino, I hope that you have me covered with whatever round you deem suitable. The next time I do a tactical entry in a meth lab, I hope that you are still waiting for the charging rhino, wherever that may be! NR |
No offense intended, I was just simply stating that I (me, myself) have no use for a less than lethal weapon system. I have no use for a paintball system, so I have never bought one of those either. Lots of people have them, and if it makes them happy, more power to them. (just don't get paint on my car)  |
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Guys, my intention was not to start or wage a war here, and no offense has been taken on any responses. As for verbage on tactical entrys, it is just that, tactical. Tactical entries range from dynamic entries to surgical, meth labs require specialized entry tactics, and yes I am very aware of the dangers in such areas, however, they are still "Tactical". My point exactly is that this new AR platform allows engagement with a minimum of concusion, blast, and very low probability of physical collateral damage. Would anyone even think that the idiots in the labs give a rats behind on what your limitations are, other than using it against you? Trust me, I have been on front end of many entries, I was never impressed with any Less Lethal options until I tried these. I was only sharing what I found with others. If it doesn't suit your needs, that's OK, if it's somthing you would be interested in, I provided the link. It sure beats the options we have had in the past if lethal or less lethal force is required in volatile or hazardous areas, whether it be chemical, electrical, hrdro, whatever. Besides that, it's a blast to shoot! NR |
Too bad they can't be a little bit more obvious. |
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The 50 is capable of being fired in a 500 S&W pistol. Hmmm will 500 S&W fire in the AR platform? Some countries allow you to blaze away at people on or about your property with "Less Lethal" rounds. France IIRC have these 12 gauge revolvers that require no permit and fire Black Powder Rubber Shot rounds. IIRC the .gov will not prosecute a homicide with a firearm that is certified as a sub lethal defense round. This thing beats the hell out of a sharp stick in a riot control mode. |
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