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7/28/2008 5:08:46 PM EDT
I saw that a 'classic' vendor is having a Tuesday special on the Century built AR; $549.  

Any idea if this is due to a coming price decrease from Century, or just from the goodness of the dealer's heart?
7/28/2008 5:11:30 PM EDT
[#1]
YOu can build one for less than that. That 549 price does show how much OTHER dealers are marking their shit up. THere are more dealers and manufactors of ARs than ever b4, but yet the prices havent come down or even reasonable IMO. We should be paying 500-600bux all day long for any brand name AR15 IMO.
7/28/2008 5:41:32 PM EDT
[#2]
you cant tell us who????
7/28/2008 6:08:19 PM EDT
[#3]

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YOu can build one for less than that. That 549 price does show how much OTHER dealers are marking their shit up. THere are more dealers and manufactors of ARs than ever b4, but yet the prices havent come down or even reasonable IMO. We should be paying 500-600bux all day long for any brand name AR15 IMO.


Cheaper than that?  Part it out for me with decent quality parts and hell, I'll  go and build one.

Even glancing around at barrels/upper components and a lower, I am over that $ amount easily.

Wher ya getting the parts and what quality are they?  I am seriously interested.
7/28/2008 6:12:33 PM EDT
[#4]

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YOu can build one for less than that. That 549 price does show how much OTHER dealers are marking their shit up. THere are more dealers and manufactors of ARs than ever b4, but yet the prices havent come down or even reasonable IMO. We should be paying 500-600bux all day long for any brand name AR15 IMO.


Cheaper than that?  Part it out for me with decent quality parts and hell, I'll  go and build one.

Even glancing around at barrels/upper components and a lower, I am over that $ amount easily.

Wher ya getting the parts and what quality are they?  I am seriously interested.


www.ar15.com/forums/board.html?b=7


(for me at least... i've built more than 1 AR w/ top quality parts for under $500 easily)

7/28/2008 6:33:07 PM EDT
[#5]

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YOu can build one for less than that. That 549 price does show how much OTHER dealers are marking their shit up. THere are more dealers and manufactors of ARs than ever b4, but yet the prices havent come down or even reasonable IMO. We should be paying 500-600bux all day long for any brand name AR15 IMO.


Because wholesale is still pretty high. During the last show I worked (this past weekend); we had S&W Optic Ready Carbines going for $799. Whole Sale for the rifle costs $740. We only made $60 profit. That's at the show.

At the store we have to sell it higher because we get less sales and foot traffic. The gun shows are our money makers. The store isn't..... we get a lot of people finger fucking and playing 20 questions at the show but we also move a lot of merchandise at the show. In two days we sold about 170 firearms. On a normal week in the store we sale maybe 10 in a week.

Also we have to buy them from a distributor, so they have to make a profit from us when we buy them from them. S&W does not sale directly to us and neither do many other firearm manufacturers. They all sell to distributors like RSR, Valor, etc....

DPMS does sell to use directly on a catch. We have to place an order of over forty rifles at the start of the year to get them cheap. Within that order we have to order the crap that many people don't buy (high end varmint rifles). We don't have the money to spend and we're not going to sit on products that won't sell. So we place smaller orders throughout the year for rifles. wholesale costs more ($100+) but it doesn't break us by having crap that doesn't move. That happened with us with FN Herstal.

We had to order an certain number of FN P90s, FN 2000s, and FNP series pistols to simply become a vendor for them. The FN P90 cost us 1600 wholesale. We still haven't been able to move one... We try to sell it at cost just to clear it and no one will touch it.

The Century Arms AR is crap. They took surplus A2 uppers and ground down the sear and BCG. When you pick one up you can understand why they cost $549. They're crap.... we have one sitting in the shop. Olympic Arms ARs are better then the Century Arms.
7/28/2008 9:30:29 PM EDT
[#6]
I wouldn't expect that the quality is going to be consistent so don't buy it without taking a good look at it.   My first AR was a Century assembled rifle.  The lower was made by Oly Arms and the rest was a demilled M16A1 kit, neutered for the ban.  The barrel was had pitting, had a tight magwell, and it was missing a gas ring.  The bolt carrier looked like a high school kid in shop class took a grinder to it.  I didn't know anything about ARs at the time so I bought it.  I eventually parted everything out including the lower.
7/28/2008 10:26:21 PM EDT
[#7]
i just paid $600 for a century cl-15 sportster. it's not a bad rifle, but it's hardly high quality. ya get what you pay for, that's for sure. if you can, spend another $200 and get a good rifle. you'll thank yourself. my century was up for sale less than 2 weeks after i bought it
7/29/2008 1:44:22 AM EDT
[#8]

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YOu can build one for less than that. That 549 price does show how much OTHER dealers are marking their shit up. THere are more dealers and manufactors of ARs than ever b4, but yet the prices havent come down or even reasonable IMO. We should be paying 500-600bux all day long for any brand name AR15 IMO.


Cheaper than that?  Part it out for me with decent quality parts and hell, I'll  go and build one.

Even glancing around at barrels/upper components and a lower, I am over that $ amount easily.

Wher ya getting the parts and what quality are they?  I am seriously interested.


www.ar15.com/forums/board.html?b=7


(for me at least... i've built more than 1 AR w/ top quality parts for under $500 easily)



Just dumps me in EE
7/29/2008 1:51:32 AM EDT
[#9]

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YOu can build one for less than that. That 549 price does show how much OTHER dealers are marking their shit up. THere are more dealers and manufactors of ARs than ever b4, but yet the prices havent come down or even reasonable IMO. We should be paying 500-600bux all day long for any brand name AR15 IMO.


Cheaper than that?  Part it out for me with decent quality parts and hell, I'll  go and build one.

Even glancing around at barrels/upper components and a lower, I am over that $ amount easily.

Wher ya getting the parts and what quality are they?  I am seriously interested.


www.ar15.com/forums/board.html?b=7


(for me at least... i've built more than 1 AR w/ top quality parts for under $500 easily)



Just dumps me in EE


i think that was the point, by shopping in the EE and looking for good deals you can build some nice guns cheap.
7/29/2008 2:02:40 AM EDT
[#10]
I would not do it.  I'd prefer to cobble something out of parts scrounged cheap off the EE than surrender money to Century and their partially trained assembly apes.  Wait, I did that already.....
7/29/2008 9:08:53 PM EDT
[#11]

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YOu can build one for less than that. That 549 price does show how much OTHER dealers are marking their shit up. THere are more dealers and manufactors of ARs than ever b4, but yet the prices havent come down or even reasonable IMO. We should be paying 500-600bux all day long for any brand name AR15 IMO.


Don't compare a Century POS to a Colt or LMT because you don't like the idea of paying twice as much for one of them.  A Miata is not a Lotus.  

If memory serves me right, Colt's were about the price of a Century (maybe a little less) in the 80's.  Inflation is a mother fucker.
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