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12/14/2009 8:22:47 PM EDT
so my buddy ordered a del-ton and after a year, hes still waiting.  he wants a gun now.  Either a LW chrome lined or a 14.5" m4 perm attatched CL.  Hes got $600 and a lower.  We need a kit or a LPK and an upper, the upper is giving me trouble.  I can BARELY find CL LW barrels or 14.5 permed kits ANYWHERE.  anyone point me in the right direction?  so far i found this:
J&T
12/14/2009 8:41:11 PM EDT
[#1]
Kits seem to be hard to come by. Someone posted a 14.5 in kit at Model-1 Sales recently, IIRC. However, I believe their wait times have been long.
12/14/2009 8:42:22 PM EDT
[#2]
Check out the Colt forum. There's a thread in there about the Colt 6520 LW. Some dealer in PA has a bunch of lightly used PA State trooper 6520 trade-ins for 699.99.
12/14/2009 8:52:00 PM EDT
[#3]
Spend $625 instead
12/14/2009 8:55:08 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Check out the Colt forum. There's a thread in there about the Colt 6520 LW. Some dealer in PA has a bunch of lightly used PA State trooper 6520 trade-ins for 699.99.

Wow- this looks worth a look. Here's another option: Bravo Co. Perm pinned upper

12/14/2009 8:59:07 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
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Check out the Colt forum. There's a thread in there about the Colt 6520 LW. Some dealer in PA has a bunch of lightly used PA State trooper 6520 trade-ins for 699.99.

Wow- this looks worth a look. Here's another option: Bravo Co. Perm pinned upper



Helluva deal, one of the best
12/14/2009 9:00:16 PM EDT
[#6]
ordered delton a year ago as in ordered and paid?
12/14/2009 9:07:38 PM EDT
[#7]
EE.
12/14/2009 9:16:27 PM EDT
[#8]
There are several CMMG and Bushmaster 14.5" 1/7 twist M4 uppers with permanently attached YHM phantom flash hiders available right now for $525 shipped to your door.  I believe Area51Tactical and m4store.net have the CMMGs and PKFirearms has the Bushmaster.  

Then you can use the $75 to buy a LPK...DONE for $600.

I'd then sell the BCG on the EE for $100 and buy a BCM BCG for $140...still in at under $650.
12/14/2009 9:59:38 PM EDT
[#9]
If he wanted it that bad, all he has to do is call DT and see what they have available and swap to that item.  I know there are lightweights being put out now, because one of my dealers had one a couple of weeks ago.  It wasn't CL, but that is an overhyped feature anyway.  He also had CL and non-CL 20 inch, and CL 16 inch heavy barrel.  All from DT, recently delivered.  The stuff is out there, it just isn't exactly what people think they want.

But between what I want and what I can get, which do you think I am going to choose?  I wanted a non-CL A2 16-inch heavy barrel.  My dealer had a flat top, CL, 16-inch heavy barrel.  Guess what is in my safe now?
12/14/2009 10:32:29 PM EDT
[#10]
how dumb would i look for askin what CL non-CL means
12/14/2009 10:33:52 PM EDT
[#11]
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how dumb would i look for askin what CL non-CL means


Chrome-lined bore/chamber versus non-chrome-lined bore/chamber.
12/14/2009 10:33:57 PM EDT
[#12]
Wait for the DD XV uppers to be in stock at AIM again.
12/14/2009 10:41:07 PM EDT
[#13]
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how dumb would i look for askin what CL non-CL means


Chrome-lined bore/chamber versus non-chrome-lined bore/chamber.


oh ok thanks.  i have a chrome lined barrel but not bore/chamber.  is a cl bore and chamber that much better?
12/14/2009 10:43:25 PM EDT
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how dumb would i look for askin what CL non-CL means




Chrome-lined bore/chamber versus non-chrome-lined bore/chamber.




oh ok thanks.  i have a chrome lined barrel but not bore/chamber.  is a cl bore and chamber that much better?


The barrel includes the bore. And chamber.



Certain barrels produced in the past had only chrome bores or chrome chambers but virtually all ARs produced at the moment that are "chrome lined" are both chrome bore and chamber.



 
12/14/2009 10:49:03 PM EDT
[#15]
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how dumb would i look for askin what CL non-CL means


Chrome-lined bore/chamber versus non-chrome-lined bore/chamber.


oh ok thanks.  i have a chrome lined barrel but not bore/chamber.  is a cl bore and chamber that much better?

The barrel includes the bore. And chamber.

Certain barrels produced in the past had only chrome bores or chrome chambers but virtually all ARs produced at the moment that are "chrome lined" are both chrome bore and chamber.
 


lol i can never keep myself from looking like an idiot haha.  i have a bushmaster xm15-e2s, u think mine is one that has the bore ahd chamber chome lined
12/14/2009 10:50:32 PM EDT
[#16]
actually i just checked bushmasters website and it is cl.  a few posts ago i saw someone saying they were looking for a non-cl.  what would the advantage of that be?
12/14/2009 10:53:04 PM EDT
[#17]



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actually i just checked bushmasters website and it is cl.  a few posts ago i saw someone saying they were looking for a non-cl.  what would the advantage of that be?
Lower cost, potentially increased accuracy. It's difficult to get the chrome lining to the exact same thickness throughout the barrel, this has a small effect on accuracy.




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lol
i can never keep myself from looking like an idiot haha. i have a
bushmaster xm15-e2s, u think mine is one that has the bore ahd chamber
chome lined


Asking questions in earnest should never be confused with being an idiot. As for what your particular rifle has, most Bushmaster carbines have chrome lined barrels. Any markings on the barrel, probably in front of the front sight base?



 



 
12/14/2009 11:01:44 PM EDT
[#18]
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actually i just checked bushmasters website and it is cl.  a few posts ago i saw someone saying they were looking for a non-cl.  what would the advantage of that be?
Lower cost, potentially increased accuracy. It's difficult to get the chrome lining to the exact same thickness throughout the barrel, this has a small effect on accuracy.

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loli can never keep myself from looking like an idiot haha. i have abushmaster xm15-e2s, u think mine is one that has the bore ahd chamberchome lined

Asking questions in earnest should never be confused with being an idiot. As for what your particular rifle has, most Bushmaster carbines have chrome lined barrels. Any markings on the barrel, probably in front of the front sight base?
 
 


Thanks.  I checked bushmaster website and it confirmed its a CL.  On the barrel it says BMP 5.56nato and 1/9 for threat.  also on the gas block theres some type of logo molded in. kind of looks like a crown.
12/15/2009 2:31:27 PM EDT
[#19]
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ordered delton a year ago as in ordered and paid?


no, the kit has not been charged yet, they charge when they ship.  The LW CL barrels are taking forever...
12/15/2009 2:55:43 PM EDT
[#20]
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There are several CMMG and Bushmaster 14.5" 1/7 twist M4 uppers with permanently attached YHM phantom flash hiders available right now for $525 shipped to your door.  I believe Area51Tactical and m4store.net have the CMMGs and PKFirearms has the Bushmaster.  

Then you can use the $75 to buy a LPK...DONE for $600.

still need the stock and sight.

I'd then sell the BCG on the EE for $100 and buy a BCM BCG for $140...still in at under $650.


12/15/2009 3:00:02 PM EDT
[#21]
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If he wanted it that bad, all he has to do is call DT and see what they have available and swap to that item.  I know there are lightweights being put out now, because one of my dealers had one a couple of weeks ago.  It wasn't CL, but that is an overhyped feature anyway.  He also had CL and non-CL 20 inch, and CL 16 inch heavy barrel.  All from DT, recently delivered.  The stuff is out there, it just isn't exactly what people think they want.

But between what I want and what I can get, which do you think I am going to choose?  I wanted a non-CL A2 16-inch heavy barrel.  My dealer had a flat top, CL, 16-inch heavy barrel.  Guess what is in my safe now?


he definitely wants a CL lightweight or m4 barrel.  Not overhyped at all imo.

im gonan have him check into the 16" m4 barreled del-ton.... ill let ya know.
12/16/2009 6:24:45 AM EDT
[#22]
Pick a 14.5" M4 upper with Chrome lining:

J&T = $416.81 Shipped

BCM= $437.95 Shipped

$21.14 is the difference between doing it right the first time and crying to us about how "the front fell off"  

Don't be the one (help your friend out)

It isn't even enough of a difference for me to do a cheap build.

Where is 87GN???
12/16/2009 6:40:43 AM EDT
[#23]
ADCO 14.5" CM-V CL M4  contour barrel w/permed phantom
WOA M4 receiver w/BCG CH
RRA LPK

$600
12/16/2009 7:02:51 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
ADCO 14.5" CM-V CL M4  contour barrel w/permed phantom
WOA M4 receiver w/BCG CH
RRA LPK

$600


Cancel the order and go with ADCO or J&T both are great and they usually have faster ship times
12/16/2009 7:15:31 AM EDT
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ADCO 14.5" CM-V CL M4  contour barrel w/permed phantom

WOA M4 receiver w/BCG CH

RRA LPK



$600


+ Stock kit

= ~$700





 
12/16/2009 8:00:01 AM EDT
[#26]
i just called del-ton yesterday and the 16" light wieghts are still back ordered but they are shippihg 16" heavy barrels and m4 kits.
some guys ordered on black friday sale and have already recieved them. i ordered a 16" heavy barrel kit yesterday.
ill let you know how long it takes.
12/16/2009 9:00:17 AM EDT
[#27]
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If he wanted it that bad, all he has to do is call DT and see what they have available and swap to that item.  I know there are lightweights being put out now, because one of my dealers had one a couple of weeks ago.  It wasn't CL, but that is an overhyped feature anyway.  He also had CL and non-CL 20 inch, and CL 16 inch heavy barrel.  All from DT, recently delivered.  The stuff is out there, it just isn't exactly what people think they want.

But between what I want and what I can get, which do you think I am going to choose?  I wanted a non-CL A2 16-inch heavy barrel.  My dealer had a flat top, CL, 16-inch heavy barrel.  Guess what is in my safe now?


12/16/2009 9:14:08 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
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If he wanted it that bad, all he has to do is call DT and see what they have available and swap to that item.  I know there are lightweights being put out now, because one of my dealers had one a couple of weeks ago.  It wasn't CL, but that is an overhyped feature anyway.  He also had CL and non-CL 20 inch, and CL 16 inch heavy barrel.  All from DT, recently delivered.  The stuff is out there, it just isn't exactly what people think they want.

But between what I want and what I can get, which do you think I am going to choose?  I wanted a non-CL A2 16-inch heavy barrel.  My dealer had a flat top, CL, 16-inch heavy barrel.  Guess what is in my safe now?





I don't need no chrome lining

I ain't no Delta Seal Ranger
12/16/2009 9:16:54 AM EDT
[#29]
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Check out the Colt forum. There's a thread in there about the Colt 6520 LW. Some dealer in PA has a bunch of lightly used PA State trooper 6520 trade-ins for 699.99.

Wow- this looks worth a look. Here's another option: Bravo Co. Perm pinned upper



I have one of these, very very nice.

If AIM gets those Daniel Defense uppers back in stock for 500$ that is a retarded good deal. I will be forced to order one.....
12/16/2009 9:33:39 AM EDT
[#30]
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ADCO 14.5" CM-V CL M4  contour barrel w/permed phantom
WOA M4 receiver w/BCG CH
RRA LPK

$600


Go with this... I bet you can get them to throw in the buffer assembly w/ M4 stock and get the entire package for $700 shipped.
12/16/2009 9:54:21 AM EDT
[#31]



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i just called del-ton yesterday and the 16" light wieghts are still back ordered but they are shippihg 16" heavy barrels and m4 kits.

some guys ordered on black friday sale and have already recieved them. i ordered a 16" heavy barrel kit yesterday.

ill let you know how long it takes.


I can attest to the fact that Del-Ton has shipped Black Rifle Friday orders out.  I got my M4 kit on Friday of last week.  Great service and fast shipping for in stock items.



I shot it yesterday in the 3 degree weather we have an it shot great.  Looks good and fit on the Oly lower half I had.  



 
12/16/2009 10:02:39 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Check out the Colt forum. There's a thread in there about the Colt 6520 LW. Some dealer in PA has a bunch of lightly used PA State trooper 6520 trade-ins for 699.99.


There is a couple of dealers that have stuff like that. Also, like others have said, the CMMG bargin bin rifles are fine for the money. Can't go wrong there either.
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