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9/13/2005 3:03:40 PM EDT
for range  plinking and home defense do i need to spend the extra $300.00 and get a full size acog or should a compact 3x suit me just fine
9/13/2005 3:07:53 PM EDT
[#1]
How far do you shoot? The full size doesnt have an advantage until 400+ meters.
9/13/2005 3:13:08 PM EDT
[#2]
anywhere from 25-200 yards .
9/13/2005 3:16:50 PM EDT
[#3]
Probably best off with the compact.
9/13/2005 5:26:18 PM EDT
[#4]
A compact will do you just fine but I like the full size more!

Full size:


Compact w/ aimpoint 3x


Mike @ CSGW

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9/13/2005 7:57:54 PM EDT
[#5]
i understand   but there is a huge price difference
9/13/2005 9:53:46 PM EDT
[#6]
The compact acog 3x is a GREAT scope. Its a little short on FOV and eye relief, but the TA31 is short on eye relief too. I had a TA50R4, and it was great.
9/13/2005 11:47:57 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Compact w/ aimpoint 3x
www.csgw.photosite.com/~photos/tn/504_348.ts1113620474000.jpg





Uhhh....why?
9/14/2005 3:31:10 AM EDT
[#8]
when mounting the compact acog  does the front sight post get in the way? do i need an ar with no front sight or no front sight? is anyone for or against mounting on a carry handle (fixed or removable)?
9/14/2005 4:22:50 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Compact w/ aimpoint 3x
www.csgw.photosite.com/~photos/tn/504_348.ts1113620474000.jpg





Uhhh....why?


6X?  or is that 9X?

I need another cup of coffee
9/14/2005 4:26:08 AM EDT
[#10]
i like both but like the fullsize acog more
9/14/2005 5:12:16 AM EDT
[#11]
If it looks like stupid newbie question be advised it is one! Does the BAC on A.C.O.G. relly work the way Trijicon shows it on the promotion video? I mean is it really possible to use it with both eyes open at short distances? What were the reasons why you chose the particular magnification? Like I said, it is probably a stupid question, I warned you.  
9/14/2005 5:28:37 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
If it looks like stupid newbie question be advised it is one! Does the BAC on A.C.O.G. relly work the way Trijicon shows it on the promotion video? I mean is it really possible to use it with both eyes open at short distances? What were the reasons why you chose the particular magnification? Like I said, it is probably a stupid question, I warned you.  


We all started somewhere.  We didn't all pop out of the womb as a full functional uber tactical mall ninja.
9/14/2005 6:27:05 AM EDT
[#13]
THIS IS NOT A POLITICALLY CORRECT THING FOR A TRIJICON DEALER TO SAY, BUT ...

LET ME APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE TO THOSE I'M ABOUT TO OFFEND.

PERSONALLY, I DISTINCTLY DO NOT CARE FOR THE COMPACT ACOGS. THEY LACK FIELD OF VIEW, LIGHT GATHERING ABILITY, MAGNIFICATION, AND HAVE LIMITED PARALLAX ACCOMODATION.

STICK TO FULL SIZE ACOGS.

WES GRANT
M.S.T.N.
9/14/2005 6:46:59 AM EDT
[#14]
And how about the BAC in real life? Which magnification for what purpose? Thank you.
9/14/2005 8:37:03 AM EDT
[#15]
The BAC really does work like the viedo shows, these scope allow 2 eyes open shooting.  I checked out both the TA31 and TA31F, both BAC are super, and the TA31F is the way to go if you have the money.  I ended up going with the TA01NSN, as I was able to get it in a trade and did not have funds for the TA31F.  I find I can even shoot the TA01NSN very fast with 2 eyes open, not BAC, but still an awsome sight.
9/14/2005 10:44:27 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Compact w/ aimpoint 3x
www.csgw.photosite.com/~photos/tn/504_348.ts1113620474000.jpg





Uhhh....why?


I just thought I would try it out for fun but it worked well out there over the rail.  The 3x with the 1.5 makes it a 5.5x.  I do not have it set up like that any more but it work.

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9/14/2005 12:36:41 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
The BAC really does work like the viedo shows, these scope allow 2 eyes open shooting.  I checked out both the TA31 and TA31F, both BAC are super, and the TA31F is the way to go if you have the money.  I ended up going with the TA01NSN, as I was able to get it in a trade and did not have funds for the TA31F.  I find I can even shoot the TA01NSN very fast with 2 eyes open, not BAC, but still an awsome sight.


+1


bac is great!


for some it takes getting use to and others sometimes never get use to it.

bac is basically for minute of man shooting imo.
9/14/2005 1:22:16 PM EDT
[#18]
When I went on deployment we didn't have any dedicated DM rigs so I was initially issued a compact acog.  It wasn't bad but I was extremely dissapointed when I learned that it was only 1.5x.  It just wasn't enough optic.  Needless to say I got an improved rig made by Paul at B. Co. with the addition of parts from Wes.  
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