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7/27/2006 6:47:36 AM EDT
Since the 9mm is an open bolt straight blowback design, it requires the heavier weight (and consequently inertia) of the 9mm buffer to keep the bolt closed until chamber pressures drop to a safe level.

Therefore, using a lighter buffer is dangerous, and likely to result in a shell busting apart in your reciever, right?

So what are the drawbacks of an even heavier buffer?  Are there any?  Are there any good reasons to use an even heavier buffer?
7/27/2006 12:05:50 PM EDT
[#1]
You pretty much answered your question. The action is just plain blowback though, not open bolt as you would find in various SMGs like the Uzi or Thompson. The 9mm buffer should be sufficient for your needs. As stated in other topics, I use an M4 heavy buffer combined with a Superior Shooting Systems chrome silicon buffer spring and it works for both my 9mm RRA upper and my Bushmaster 5.56 upper. The spring is much stiffer than the stock springs. Heavier buffers than what would be used for 9mm have been used according to some posts that I've read in the past and they seem to work for them. It's always a good thing for the bolt to stay closed a milisecond longer for the pressures to decrease.
7/27/2006 7:28:59 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
Since the 9mm is an open bolt straight blowback design, it requires the heavier weight (and consequently inertia) of the 9mm buffer to keep the bolt closed until chamber pressures drop to a safe level.
9mm AR/M16 ??..... they is closed bolt... the bolt alone weighs 16oz.   I run mine with an A2 stock and a 7oz rifle buffer (guts removed, and snug fitting machined brass dowel installed).  Less crap out the eject port when using a suppressor, and I simply swap to the 223/556 upper and carry on.  My M11 Slowfire of the "TASK" style has a 16oz bolt, and a 12.8oz buffer in the A2 tube, don't try 12.8oz in an AR/M16, it is too sluggish.

Therefore, using a lighter buffer is dangerous, and likely to result in a shell busting apart in your reciever, right?
You not going to bust a shell in the receiver, buffer is just resistance to movement via weight.

So what are the drawbacks of an even heavier buffer?  Are there any?  Are there any good reasons to use an even heavier buffer?
See above comment

7/27/2006 10:49:48 PM EDT
[#3]
I use the Wolf XP spring an a 9oz buffer of my own design.
7/28/2006 4:21:47 AM EDT
[#4]
I like slow cyclic rates, so I run my 9mm uppers with an A2 stock, in which I have an LMG buffer with standard recoil spring.  The bolt has also been ramped and the tungsten insert added.

Others would call it sluggish, it works for me.
7/28/2006 5:38:23 AM EDT
[#5]
The AR-15 is not an open bolt weapon (execpt in some rare oddities).....a real full auto Isreali Uzi is an 'open bolt' weapon.  The sub caliber AR-15 is a closed bolt blowback action.

I run a tungsten weight with a short stroke Hahn Heavy Buffer..........saves wear and tear on your weapon, softens felt recoil........heavier is better.  

Running a standard light buffer will eventually trash your rifle, Oly or Colt style.  Any naysayer is wrong!
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