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Posted: 5/6/2008 4:46:25 AM EDT
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ok first off ive bought 4 ars in the last 30 days so if i buy an aimpoint in the next few months i might wake up ballless .im thinking ill buy an aimpoint m2 or m3 in sept or oct , i thought about an aimpoint c3 but i have not found much info on them . so on to my question i bought an m4 i want to shoot now my options are an aimpoint clone around 50 bucks or truglow red dot around 50 bucks or a barska red dot ( sorta looks like acog ) for 50 bucks . any one have pics of barska mounted on ar ? does it clear font sight ? what cheap scope would all of you buy ? |
| no rear sights and why spend 100 bucks on a rear sight ill use for a few months . i wish i was faster last night on that used m2 in ee for 200 bucks but i was trying to see in pics if it was real her |
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Just wondering why you would buy 4 ars with no irons on them? I'd want to shoot them as soon as I got them, I wouldn't be able to stand staring at new rifles for a few months while I saved up for a scope. Personally, I wouldn't buy a clone. I've owned a couple of Hakko ones and while they were a fun toy eventually I ended up buying the real thing after they broke. If I were you and had 4 ARs, I'd rather sell one of my uppers and buy a real aimpoint. |
Good advice. Most of the cheap red dots on the market are exactly that Cheap. (And to be honest a few of the not so cheap ones are CHeap) |
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Go with an Aimpoint or and Eotech and you will avoid most of the problems. I have seen units that will not hold zero, have reticles turn into big red blobs, and one memorable not really cheap (cough CMORE) that lost zero sitting on a truck back seat for a week without being touched. |
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Go with an Aimpoint or and Eotech and you will avoid most of the problems. I have seen units that will not hold zero, have reticles turn into big red blobs, and one memorable not really cheap (cough CMORE) that lost zero sitting on a truck back seat for a week without being touched. thanks im planning on aimpoint , i just did not want to wait to shoot the m4 |
i have a trueglow it's just ok battery life sucks and to tell you the truth you really dont know what your missing until you look into a aimpoint or trijicon then it becomes obvious why there is such a huge price difference. |
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That RDPII appears to be a carbon copy of the Fast Fire from Burris (I should know, I just bought a fast fire). It even comes with the same accessories. Hmmm... interesting. Of course a true Fast Fire can be had for only $30 more... BTW, a fast fire does you no good on an AR with out some kind of riser. The Iron Dot rocks! (Thanks Mark LaRue) - AG |
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If you just want a cheap optic that'll hold up for range use, get the $75 Aimpoint lookalike in the cantilever mount from www.1337tactical.com. Lots of people have had good luck with them, and they come ready to mount and shoot. Is it a great sight? No. Will it work for range shooting while you save for something better? Sure thing. Not only that, you can resell it easily when you upgrade and get a good bit of your money back. The best quality red dot I know of for the money is the Ultradot 25 or 30, at www.ultradotwest.com. Great sights, very reliable and accurate, lifetime warranty (none of my 3 have needed it yet), and well proven in the bullseye world. The rings they come with are too short for an AR, so you'd need either 1.4" tall rings or a riser, but it's the best red dot I know of for $130 or less. By the time you've bought an Ultradot and risers, though, you might want to just spring for a SPOT. |
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There's good advice here. If you have 4 ARs you should spend some time learning to reload, and getting used to your iron sights with practice at the range. If you are not reloading now, it will not take much to start. You can use a Lee hand press (works fine, that's what I use most of the time because it's convenient and transportable, and you DON'T need a reloading bench). A set of Lee dies doesn't cost much either, and they work well enough. Once you start reloading you will save a lot of $$ especially if you re-use brass. Save your brass and re-load them. Also I find a LOT of nice, shiny, fired-once brass in the refuse bins (or on the ground) at my local range. I just pick them up, inspect them, tumble them and use them. Word of advice: when you begin this, try to find someone who is already doing it, and get some hands on training. It's easier than it seems, compared to trying to teach yourself out of books. I learned the hard way that most of the cheap red dots did not stand up to ARs. They work well on .22s and air guns (hence the 'airsoft' comments you see on this board). The closest thing to a cheap red dot I know of, that works, is the Millet unit. I use the Millet red dot on a 44 MAG Super Redhawk using Ruger rings. It has survived. If it can survive that, I think it might survive an AR, maybe. I hope you find this helpful. 
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