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2/1/2008 7:28:30 PM EDT
http://www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/firearm.aspx?id=54 w/ a red dot... and flip siights....

or
http://www.dpmsinc.com/store/products/?prod=1069
or
http://www.dpmsinc.com/store/products/?prod=1066 ....
 


2/1/2008 9:12:15 PM EDT
[#1]
Hmm, what do you want to know?
2/1/2008 10:04:04 PM EDT
[#2]
input.... on my fwirst black rifle....h.gif
2/1/2008 10:30:05 PM EDT
[#3]
The last two have a shorter barrel with a long flash hider...just my opinion but I don't care for the looks of the long flash hider.

Your first choice is not too bad...but if your looking to spend up to $799 like what your 2nd choice would cost I would look at the Panther Classic 16. You get a heavier barrel for the same price.

I would go this route if you can afford it now:
Panther Classic 16             $799.00
Chrome Lined Bore & Chamber in a 4140 Chrome-Moly Steel Barrel  $32.00
JP Adjustable trigger  $139.95
Total of 970.95


Depending on what you want to do and how much you want to spend.
I went with the DPMS Panther Classic 16 and added the following:
Barrel Upgrade: Cryo-Accurizing
Barrel Upgrade: Barrel Fluting - Full Flutes
Chrome Lined Bore & Chamber in a 4140 Chrome-Moly Steel Heavy Barrel
6-Position AP4 Stock (this had a slight wobble to it, so I bought a Vltor stock)
Meprolight Front and Rear Sight
Free Float 4-Rail Carbine Handguard
JP Adjustable Trigger

It cost me just a bit over $1,500 by the time I paid for everything but it is a very accurate rifle. 4" groups at 400 yards, 2" groups at 200 yards with Remington UMC ammo from Walmart. I have since bought some Black Hills match grade ammo and looking for better groups yet.

Here is a picture of my Classic 16.
Tangodown vertical grip, mounted on A.R.M.S. #17 mount
Trijicon TA01 ACOG
2/1/2008 10:37:22 PM EDT
[#4]
thanks very nice optic
2/1/2008 10:49:53 PM EDT
[#5]
If your looking for a cheap AR to get into then you might look into these from CMMG

CMMG Bargin Bin AR-15's

It would be something to shoot now and buy upgrades for when ever money would allow it.
2/1/2008 11:14:16 PM EDT
[#6]
www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/firearm.aspx?id=54
www.dpmsinc.com/store/products/?prod=1069
www.dpmsinc.com/store/products/?prod=1066

while i would not buy a complete NIB DMPS, esp for base price, as a 1st or any AR (i'd opt for other brands for similar prices myself)--i'd take the 3rnd one only

the sporter is not my tastes; why have a 11.5" bbl when a 16" bbl is more advantageous?
2/2/2008 12:33:37 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/firearm.aspx?id=54
www.dpmsinc.com/store/products/?prod=1069
www.dpmsinc.com/store/products/?prod=1066

while i would not buy a complete NIB DMPS, esp for base price, as a 1st or any AR (i'd opt for other brands for similar prices myself)--i'd take the 3rnd one only

the sporter is not my tastes; why have a 11.5" bbl when a 16" bbl is more advantageous?


sportical ? that must be a new rifle, never saw that one before..sure is light 6.3lbs

I shot the long break 11.5 barrel , feels good , centered a soda can at 75ft, seemed to have less kick ..
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