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Posted: 5/6/2013 5:58:40 PM EDT
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Quoted: Fire Clean lube. Anyone try this, what are your thoughts? I met the owner at the NRA convention. He was walking around with an upper and bolt carrier that had been treated with Fireclean. The surfaces felt ridiculously smooth and slick. His one caveat - the metal has to absolutely scrubbed clean before application. Any residual carbon will attract more carbon. I'm intrigued. He gave me a few samples, and I'll try it on one of my guns. |
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Good to go stuff. Been using it for a several months now. Really keeps the carbon from fusing with the metals. I literally wipe it off, apply a coat, and carry on. I feel that FireClean has be impregnated into the metals of my BCG to the point that it blocks the carbon from adhering to it thus I am able to just wipe it off.
I'll be doing some before and after pictures once my suppressed SBR becomes unreliable. You might have to wait awhile lol. |
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Someone did an independent test here last week
comparing Frog lube, Fireclean and another bio lube. FL and FC failed at salt corrosion. Then supposedly got a nasty gram to remove results. For me. Its to new to even bother with. EDIT. here it is. Battle_of_the_Biolubes.html |
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I ran Fireclean for the last day of a carbine course I took. I did not notice that it did anything better/different than MPRO-7 LPX that I used the first two days did. The one area that the product truly shines in is carbon removal. I use it to free up a switchblock, things like that. Personally, I like a CLP that has more P to it than the Fireclean product.
Granted, I only ran it for a day, but my weapon did not feel any smoother than it did after a day using MPRO-7 LPX. |
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I've been using FIREClean for about 6 months on ARs, handguns, and my competition shotguns. It's good stuff. Cleans well, lubricates exceptionally, and best of all it doesn't stink. It literally has no odor. I've always been a "free lube" user- you know, all those little samples you get at matches or shows. I got my first bottle of FIREClean as a free sample too and I was hesitant to use it because it doesn't smell. How can something clean carbon and fouling off a rifle if it doesn't smell like a chemical? I don't know, but it certainly does! FIREClean is the only lube I've used that I would actually pay for.
Salt water corrosion protection? Hell if I care- I live in Kentucky. And I take care of my stuff. |
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I've been using FIREClean for about 6 months on ARs, handguns, and my competition shotguns. It's good stuff. Cleans well, lubricates exceptionally, and best of all it doesn't stink. It literally has no odor. I've always been a "free lube" user- you know, all those little samples you get at matches or shows. I got my first bottle of FIREClean as a free sample too and I was hesitant to use it because it doesn't smell. How can something clean carbon and fouling off a rifle if it doesn't smell like a chemical? I don't know, but it certainly does! FIREClean is the only lube I've used that I would actually pay for. Salt water corrosion protection? Hell if I care- I live in Kentucky. And I take care of my stuff. I train in inclement weather at times. Anyway, it is probably the best carbon-fouling killer I have found that also functions as a lube. |
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I shot a USPSA match in the rain a week and a half ago. It rained the entire day. FIREClean was the only lube on my gun, and it's been sitting in the safe since the match. I checked it out today while doing dry fire drills at lunch time- no sign of corrosion, it's still lubricated well, and honestly doesn't need cleaning yet.
But, rain is different from salt water. I have no need to be concerned w/ salt water. |
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I ran Fireclean for the last day of a carbine course I took. I did not notice that it did anything better/different than MPRO-7 LPX that I used the first two days did. The one area that the product truly shines in is carbon removal. I use it to free up a switchblock, things like that. Personally, I like a CLP that has more P to it than the Fireclean product. Granted, I only ran it for a day, but my weapon did not feel any smoother than it did after a day using MPRO-7 LPX. In your test, how much salt did you put into the water? |
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I ran Fireclean for the last day of a carbine course I took. I did not notice that it did anything better/different than MPRO-7 LPX that I used the first two days did. The one area that the product truly shines in is carbon removal. I use it to free up a switchblock, things like that. Personally, I like a CLP that has more P to it than the Fireclean product. Granted, I only ran it for a day, but my weapon did not feel any smoother than it did after a day using MPRO-7 LPX. In your test, how much salt did you put into the water? Quite a bit. I'm tempted to test it with just tap water, but I don't test FireCLEAN anymore. |
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I ran Fireclean for the last day of a carbine course I took. I did not notice that it did anything better/different than MPRO-7 LPX that I used the first two days did. The one area that the product truly shines in is carbon removal. I use it to free up a switchblock, things like that. Personally, I like a CLP that has more P to it than the Fireclean product. Granted, I only ran it for a day, but my weapon did not feel any smoother than it did after a day using MPRO-7 LPX. In your test, how much salt did you put into the water? Quite a bit. I'm tempted to test it with just tap water, but I don't test FireCLEAN anymore. If saltwater is a concern for you why not just use plain 'ole saltwater in your Weaponshield, Mpro7, Froglube, etc tests? |
| I met the owner at a 3 gun match then another and another. I finally took a couple of bottles of Fireclean and gave it a try. I like it a lot. I pretty much created a Fireclean bath and soaked all of my shotgun rifle and pistol parts in it. It really makes the carbon buildup easy to clean off. Anything I can do to reduce cleaning time is worth every penny. |
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I ran Fireclean for the last day of a carbine course I took. I did not notice that it did anything better/different than MPRO-7 LPX that I used the first two days did. The one area that the product truly shines in is carbon removal. I use it to free up a switchblock, things like that. Personally, I like a CLP that has more P to it than the Fireclean product. Granted, I only ran it for a day, but my weapon did not feel any smoother than it did after a day using MPRO-7 LPX. In your test, how much salt did you put into the water? Quite a bit. I'm tempted to test it with just tap water, but I don't test FireCLEAN anymore. If saltwater is a concern for you why not just use plain 'ole saltwater in your Weaponshield, Mpro7, Froglube, etc tests? I don't live near the sea, and I'm not going to go jogging and rub the test-item on my sweaty manchest, lol So I had to mix it with sea-salt and tap water. |
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I ran Fireclean for the last day of a carbine course I took. I did not notice that it did anything better/different than MPRO-7 LPX that I used the first two days did. The one area that the product truly shines in is carbon removal. I use it to free up a switchblock, things like that. Personally, I like a CLP that has more P to it than the Fireclean product. Granted, I only ran it for a day, but my weapon did not feel any smoother than it did after a day using MPRO-7 LPX. In your test, how much salt did you put into the water? Quite a bit. I'm tempted to test it with just tap water, but I don't test FireCLEAN anymore. If saltwater is a concern for you why not just use plain 'ole saltwater in your Weaponshield, Mpro7, Froglube, etc tests? I don't live near the sea, and I'm not going to go jogging and rub the test-item on my sweaty manchest, lol So I had to mix it with sea-salt and tap water. Saltwater brine is for turkeys, not gun parts 
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I ran Fireclean for the last day of a carbine course I took. I did not notice that it did anything better/different than MPRO-7 LPX that I used the first two days did. The one area that the product truly shines in is carbon removal. I use it to free up a switchblock, things like that. Personally, I like a CLP that has more P to it than the Fireclean product. Granted, I only ran it for a day, but my weapon did not feel any smoother than it did after a day using MPRO-7 LPX. In your test, how much salt did you put into the water? Quite a bit. I'm tempted to test it with just tap water, but I don't test FireCLEAN anymore. If saltwater is a concern for you why not just use plain 'ole saltwater in your Weaponshield, Mpro7, Froglube, etc tests? I don't live near the sea, and I'm not going to go jogging and rub the test-item on my sweaty manchest, lol So I had to mix it with sea-salt and tap water. Saltwater brine is for turkeys, not gun parts
Doesn't matter if I used tap or saltwater. |
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I ran Fireclean for the last day of a carbine course I took. I did not notice that it did anything better/different than MPRO-7 LPX that I used the first two days did. The one area that the product truly shines in is carbon removal. I use it to free up a switchblock, things like that. Personally, I like a CLP that has more P to it than the Fireclean product. Granted, I only ran it for a day, but my weapon did not feel any smoother than it did after a day using MPRO-7 LPX. In your test, how much salt did you put into the water? Quite a bit. I'm tempted to test it with just tap water, but I don't test FireCLEAN anymore. If saltwater is a concern for you why not just use plain 'ole saltwater in your Weaponshield, Mpro7, Froglube, etc tests? I don't live near the sea, and I'm not going to go jogging and rub the test-item on my sweaty manchest, lol So I had to mix it with sea-salt and tap water. Saltwater brine is for turkeys, not gun parts
Doesn't matter if I used tap or saltwater. You're doing a corrosion test. Got it. You don't live near the ocean and corrosion is an issue for you? 
You say that it doesn't matter whether you use salt or tap water? 
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You're doing a corrosion test. Got it. You don't live near the ocean and corrosion is an issue for you?
You say that it doesn't matter whether you use salt or tap water?
Nope. Not at all. PM sent. As to why corrosion is an "issue" for me, I already stated that. I train in inclement weather sometimes. I don't just pack it in when it starts to drizzle. |
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OK, so do car suspensions typically rust in areas that don't salt their roads? Then again, car manufacturers don't sand the frame down to bare metal.
Bottom line- you're sanding the finish of an Allen wrench (no telling what kind of steel it is) to bare metal. How is that related to guns with phosphate, chrome, anodized aluminum, etc? |
| It was a comparison test. Do enemy soldiers have perfectly round vital organs? Then why is the accuracy standard based on MOA? Do rifles operate at 1200rpm under 40kg pressure? Then why is the milspec for CLP based on wear from such a test? Also, yes, suspension components do rust in such places. My 2012 370z is such a vehicle. Not all parts of a rifle are coated. The fcg, bore in some cases, etc come to mind, as do those pretty stainless barrels. Anyway, whatever. CLP has a P in it for a reason. CLP is tested to meet a spec on sanded unfinished steel in humidity chambers. Is this anymore realistic? |
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The mil spec for CLP is pretty dumb all around. I frequently shoot in the rain and have no issues with rust from any CLPs I've ever used. Then again, I don't sand my parts to bare metal and drape them with salty toilet paper. What was the salt content? Of the tap-water? I have no way of knowing. I can't taste any salt in it, though. Seriously, it was a comparison test. If you want to adopt the Froglube thing about "It works, so who cares about data of any sort?" Then be my guest. I'm not selling anything. |
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