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8/7/2006 12:59:05 PM EDT
hi guy's this will be my first semi auto ever,and now is the time to start my first ever build. i just got my lower from RRA unassembled not much yet but it's a start.
8/7/2006 5:34:47 PM EDT
[#1]
woo hooo.. you're off to a good start!  Be sure to keep us posted.
8/7/2006 5:55:05 PM EDT
[#2]
thank's i'll need all the help i can get .i just want to build a nice and reliable "black rifle" any way i do have some more parts coming soon lower parts kit and a2 stock and when funds allow maybe a decent upper to go with it. any advice or comment's are very welcome thank's.
8/8/2006 8:46:15 PM EDT
[#3]
Advice?


Shrink your pictures.  
8/9/2006 3:18:52 AM EDT
[#4]
Keep us up to date, and if you run in to trouble let us know
8/9/2006 10:00:58 AM EDT
[#5]
..you changed the pic! ..flip it back over
8/9/2006 1:04:16 PM EDT
[#6]
thank's guy's i'm sorry for the big picture i just started to learn how to download pics on web forums.hould
8/9/2006 7:05:25 PM EDT
[#7]
hi guys i'm having trouble with the hammer pin i can't get it to even go thru any help or tips please?
8/9/2006 7:29:29 PM EDT
[#8]
try pushing the hammer down and cocking it into "firing position" that should make it a little easier with some wiggling on your hammer pins part


hope that helps



-blue
8/10/2006 12:44:34 PM EDT
[#9]
here is a new pic with some parts that came in hope you like.http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m137/guimbo/Picture051.jpg
8/10/2006 12:48:50 PM EDT
[#10]
i found out that they sent me two different pins for the trigger and hammer. i talked to one of the guys at RRA and i gues the pins are supposed to have been the same but for what i can see from the ones i got one is larger in diameter then the other. any input on this?
8/10/2006 1:34:24 PM EDT
[#11]

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i found out that they sent me two different pins for the trigger and hammer. i talked to one of the guys at RRA and i gues the pins are supposed to have been the same but for what i can see from the ones i got one is larger in diameter then the other. any input on this?


It depedns on "how much larger"

There are three *major* different sizes of trigger/hammer pins:

"Standard" : .154"

"RRA match" : .155"

"Colt bastard size" : .170"



If you got a colt bastard pin - it wouldnt even start - and would be very visibly obvious that it was the wrong size.

If you got a RRA match pin - those are just slightly oversized to be a press/tap fit, so they dont spin.  You have to tap them into some receivers to get them going.
8/10/2006 3:07:32 PM EDT
[#12]
that's good info falarak i didn't know there where that many different sizes, if you look at the pic i posted the pin on the left is the largest one in diameter compared to the one on the right. but rra is going to send the correct one hopefully. again thank's for all the info guys i'm hoping to learn as much as i can from this sight
8/10/2006 3:53:19 PM EDT
[#13]
Looks like a colt bastard pin.

The .154 and .155 pins cannot be differentiated by the naked eye.
8/10/2006 5:09:52 PM EDT
[#14]
Why is there a Colt bastard pin?
8/10/2006 6:32:37 PM EDT
[#15]
also with the rra lowers.... be patient when mating the upper to the lower because it is going to be an extremely tight fit.  don't force it.  just lube them up good with some clp and work them back and forth until they fit.  it's a PITA at first, but what you end up with is a nice tight fit between the upper and lower, which makes it worth it in the end
8/10/2006 8:27:58 PM EDT
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Why is there a Colt bastard pin?


Because Colt is a bastard company?  
8/11/2006 1:26:36 AM EDT
[#17]
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also with the rra lowers.... be patient when mating the upper to the lower because it is going to be an extremely tight fit.  don't force it.  just lube them up good with some clp and work them back and forth until they fit.  it's a PITA at first, but what you end up with is a nice tight fit between the upper and lower, which makes it worth it in the endhis  
8/11/2006 3:08:05 AM EDT
[#18]
casket77, back in the "bad ole days" 15 or 20 years ago, all aftermarket recievers, upper and lower, were cast aluminum and they all had to be hand fitted. Nowadays, even the cheapest recievers are forged aluminum and are exponentially (I just learned that word!) better than those old pieces of s#@%! Most modern name brand recievers go together like red beans and rice. These are the good ole days! Start with the pivot (front) pin. If it closes all the way, like it should, go to the TD(rear) pin. If it doesn't close all the way, you may have to relieve the bottom of the pivot pin hole of the upper reciever with a rattail file. If it closes all the way but the takedown pin won't go then you will have to use the rattail file on the rear pin hole of the upper reciever. Avoid modifying your lower reciever. It is the "gun", anything else is just a "part". Good luck on this build and your next, (there will be a next one!)

P.S. I really dig the green furniture!!!
8/11/2006 2:47:29 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
also with the rra lowers.... be patient when mating the upper to the lower because it is going to be an extremely tight fit.  don't force it.  just lube them up good with some clp and work them back and forth until they fit.  it's a PITA at first, but what you end up with is a nice tight fit between the upper and lower, which makes it worth it in the end
so am i going to run in to this problem using any brand of upper? now i'm a little nervous about this situation, is that a good thing that both upper and lower fit that tight together?hopefully it's not as bad as it sound's  


no it's not that bad, but sometimes people spaz out about it.  you'll probably run into this with any upper you attach to the lower.  from what i've heard rra puts a thicker coating on their lowers.
8/11/2006 3:07:43 PM EDT
[#20]
again thank's alot for the information guys youv'e been really helpful. now i'm thinking what are your opinions on to which upper to use (brand)?. the type of shooting that i would like to do is from short to intermediate range for instance the range i go to only has from 50yds to 300yds. what barrel lenght and twist should i consider etc ?  
8/11/2006 3:57:51 PM EDT
[#21]

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no it's not that bad, but sometimes people spaz out about it.  you'll probably run into this with any upper you attach to the lower.  from what i've heard rra puts a thicker coating on their lowers.


It is not a thicker coating - hard coat anodizing is hard coat anodizing.  The reason *some* uppers dont fit on *some* RRA lowers (actually, CMT made lowers in general) is because CMT does not cut a relief in the rear coarners of the receiver, like you see on other models.

This causes some Bushmaster and Colt upper receivers not to fit, because they are wider and longer in that area, and require mild filing/sanding to fit.  The lack of this relief cut in the RRA receiver causes most uppers to fit a tad more snug, which is considered by *some* to be a benefit.

I have built several RRA's and Stags that would barely fit even with CMT made upper receivers... but they were just tight and loosened up with use.

I wouldnt worry about a problem until you have one.  
8/11/2006 4:03:38 PM EDT
[#22]

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again thank's alot for the information guys youv'e been really helpful. now i'm thinking what are your opinions on to which upper to use (brand)?.


CMT (Stag/RRA) from Global Tactical


the type of shooting that i would like to do is from short to intermediate range for instance the range i go to only has from 50yds to 300yds. what barrel lenght and twist should i consider etc ?  


Twist?  1:7, so you can shoot any ammo.  After that... 1:8.  After that, 1:9.

Length?  If you dont have a specific reason to get a rifle, then always go carbine.  16" is a good length.  I see you already have an A2 stock.... do you know speficially how you plan to use this weapon?  That will determine your choices more than anything.  Providing the distance of 50-300 doesnt really mean squat.  Do you plan on using it for 3-gun?  Urban combat training?  Plinker?  Benchrest/target/varmint shooting?

8/12/2006 4:41:24 AM EDT
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again thank's alot for the information guys youv'e been really helpful. now i'm thinking what are your opinions on to which upper to use (brand)?.


CMT (Stag/RRA) from Global Tactical

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the type of shooting that i would like to do is from short to intermediate range for instance the range i go to only has from 50yds to 300yds. what barrel lenght and twist should i consider etc ?  


Twist?  1:7, so you can shoot any ammo.  After that... 1:8.  After that, 1:9.

Length?  If you dont have a specific reason to get a rifle, then always go carbine.  16" is a good length.  I see you already have an A2 stock.... do you know speficially how you plan to use this weapon?  That will determine your choices more than anything.  Providing the distance of 50-300 doesnt really mean squat.  Do you plan on using it for 3-gun?  Urban combat training?  Plinker?  Benchrest/target/varmint shooting?

so i guess 1:7 is probably the way to go.the type of shooting that i always do is from the bench/target, as for distance weather from 50yds to 300yds or more i thought longer barrel means a bit more velocity you can expect from your rifle. again this is my first ever semi auto rifle i only own bolt rifles and i just caught the black rifle bug big time,so i hope some of my questions aren't to anoying so please bare with me  
8/12/2006 10:45:25 AM EDT
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[so i guess 1:7 is probably the way to go.


If you want to be able to shoot heavy bullets, 75gr plus, then yes.  Otherwise, it aint all that critical.  I do like options, however... and 1:7 and 1:8 will shoot just about anything out there.


the type of shooting that i always do is from the bench/target,


Then you might consider if you just want to plink with cheap ammo - or whether you will get into shooting for small groups.... which means you will need better quality ($$$) ammo and a better barrel... such as a stainless match barrel, typically in 1:8.


as for distance weather from 50yds to 300yds or more i thought longer barrel means a bit more velocity you can expect from your rifle.


It typically does.  However, more velocity doesnt always mean your rifle will shoot better at longer distances.  A quality 16" barrel will outshoot a rack grade 20" barrel at 500yds, easily.  Length has more to do with maintaining desired velocity for hunting, or to have the longest fragmentation threshold possible on human targets.  Probably not your biggest concern.


again this is my first ever semi auto rifle i only own bolt rifles and i just caught the black rifle bug big time,so i hope some of my questions aren't to anoying so please bare with me  


Not at all!  Before buying an upper, I do suggest you read up, and consider the type of shooting you want to do.... the kind of ammo you want to use, and the accuracy you expect, and that will help you make an informed decision.
8/13/2006 2:46:28 PM EDT
[#25]
thank's falarak for the for the great info.now if i were to put together my own upper? for instance like buying a assembled upper and picking a barrel that would best suit my shooting need's would there be any issues to worry about or am i just better off just buying one complete? what are the advantages on either one? thank's again.
8/17/2006 7:24:09 PM EDT
[#26]
well i finally got the pin and got it together.http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m137/guimbo/Picture052.jpg
8/17/2006 7:29:23 PM EDT
[#27]
well i do have to say that so far the trigger is really heavy fells like a 12lbs trigger pull but i guess i'll have to get used to it.and one other thing i noticed that if you kind of shake the lower set up i can hear the spring shake inside the stock is this normal?thank's.
9/16/2006 2:14:46 PM EDT
[#28]
well i finally got it all together here it is.http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m137/guimbo/Picture083.jpg
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