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12/17/2012 7:48:32 AM EDT
Planning on doing an 80% receiver. Upon completion of the machine work it will be sent out for Type III Hard Anodizing. I am pretty sure that at a minimun it will need a serial number.

a) Does the serial number need to be located on the exterior of the unit or can it be hidden? (i.e. magwell or FCG recess)
b) What other roll marks are absolutely necessary?



12/17/2012 8:59:42 AM EDT
[#1]
I was under the impression that a home built firearm did not need any markings or serial numbers?
12/17/2012 9:08:08 AM EDT
[#2]
You don't need a serial number if you made your own firearm.
12/17/2012 9:09:51 AM EDT
[#3]
Firearms you make yourself do not *require* any markings at all.  

It is recommended that they have some sort of identifying marks, such as a serial number, so they can be identified and returned to you in the event they are ever stolen.

ETA:  That's valid for Federal laws, your state laws may be different.
12/17/2012 9:16:17 AM EDT
[#4]
I don't know the particulars, but if the receiver is to be sent out for any type of work/repair it would need to be marked. This is why I am asking so that I can have the engraver get it right before I machine the piece.  Once the machining is complete the anodizer can not accept it without proper markings.

The questions still remain unanswered.
a) Does the serial number need to be located on the exterior of the unit or can it be hidden? (i.e. magwell or FCG recess)
b) What other roll marks are absolutely necessary for a licensed gunsmith (or anodizer) to accept the receiver?
12/17/2012 9:38:36 AM EDT
[#5]
The above replies are still valid, legally, the Fed does not require it, your state, or the 'sendee' may
require some sort of serial markings in order for them to gain possession or work on it. This can
generally be anything, i.e. "My Gun", "MG-15", "MG1509131", "1", "A", "USMC 1989" etc.
12/17/2012 3:34:02 PM EDT
[#6]
if you know where you are going to send it, why not ask THEM what they require?

here are the BATFE requirements for importers and makers of NFA weapons.
this is the MOST you would EVER need, and more than the minimum.
i.e. even though its overkill, if you do this you're covered.

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/guides/importation-verification/firearms-verification-overview.html
12/17/2012 5:46:49 PM EDT
[#7]
Thx for the link. I guess I will "cause to be engraved" several bits of information for when I transfer the rifle to my grandson.
12/17/2012 6:29:41 PM EDT
[#8]
If you make your own firearm and send it to US Anodizing to get anodized, they require you to have an FFL to send it back to.
At least, that's what they told me. (YOU don't have to have an FFL, they just need to send it back to an FFL)

Not sure how the FFL would put that in the books if it doesn't have manufacture or S/N markings.
12/17/2012 6:53:31 PM EDT
[#9]
According to US Anodizings website... they are an FFL and will send it directly back to you.
Just like if you send a rifle back to the manufacturer for repair they send it directly back to you.
12/17/2012 6:59:33 PM EDT
[#10]
Don't mill it out first, than its not a firearm
And won't matter
12/17/2012 7:11:45 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
If you make your own firearm and send it to US Anodizing to get anodized, they require you to have an FFL to send it back to.
At least, that's what they told me. (YOU don't have to have an FFL, they just need to send it back to an FFL)

Not sure how the FFL would put that in the books if it doesn't have manufacture or S/N markings.


as a all too frequent customer of Victor's that's not true.
i mail (USPS) it to him and he mails (USPS) it back.
maybe you misunderstood, or maybe (its been about a month) he's changed his policy.
12/17/2012 7:14:20 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
Don't mill it out first, than its not a firearm
And won't matter


this is quite true also.
we have a member on the Retro forum that engraves, but has no FFL, he can't ship or receive lowers that  have been worked on.
12/17/2012 10:59:49 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Quoted:
If you make your own firearm and send it to US Anodizing to get anodized, they require you to have an FFL to send it back to.
At least, that's what they told me. (YOU don't have to have an FFL, they just need to send it back to an FFL)

Not sure how the FFL would put that in the books if it doesn't have manufacture or S/N markings.


as a all too frequent customer of Victor's that's not true.
i mail (USPS) it to him and he mails (USPS) it back.
maybe you misunderstood, or maybe (its been about a month) he's changed his policy.


It has been a while since I last talked to Victor. He told me then that he would have to send my finished 80% lower to an FFL.
Glad to hear that no FFL is needed.
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