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5/4/2006 10:50:47 PM EDT
So I am looking at 2 options the grip stick light that goes below the barrel or the light that goes to the side with no grip stick and a pressure switch. If i get the grip stick I think sight acquisition might be quicker becuase you just point at the center of the light. the side mount however would allow me to rest the gun on a bench or wall etc. what do you guys think?
5/5/2006 6:29:30 AM EDT
[#1]
Side mount, thumb activated. I dont like wires and the M900 is 20 oz.
5/5/2006 4:47:32 PM EDT
[#2]
both


5/9/2006 5:51:43 AM EDT
[#3]
I prefer to hold my vertical grip with a thumbs forward grip and I do not like to mess with tape switches and wires so I prefer my light to be index finger activated at the 6 o'clock rail.

A few reasons I prefer this location and activation method is because it works great with either hand as the way the light is activated doesn't change when I switch hands and the 6 o'clock mount is a nice neutral position when working around left and right side barricades.  YMMV...





5/10/2006 8:23:32 PM EDT
[#4]
I like the side mount but I don't like the pressure switch.    
5/10/2006 9:16:10 PM EDT
[#5]
I have tried bottom mount, bottom mount with grip and side mount with and with out presure switch.  Settled on side mount with presure switch.  Used it for most of my tour in Iraq.  

Wanted to hold the weapon with both hands gripping it the same in any postion, standing while clearing buildings, firing from the knee, prone or resting it with my off hand over cover.  The grip got in the way and screwed up all the muscle memory I had from before I tried it.

I think a front grip is best for SWAT entry teams that only fight a short fight standing up and it getting in the way for more general fighting and using other shooting postions.  My goto weapon back in the states is now side mounted and would not switch if you paid me.
5/11/2006 8:24:54 PM EDT
[#6]
I have/ had mine mounted on the right side so when I use a vert grip my left thumb operates the button. But that is just me. I cant stand vert grips and I have no reason for the light any more (not that I did before ).

5/11/2006 8:35:51 PM EDT
[#7]
All my SF's are at 9 o'clock w/Z48 click switches.  Its basically ambidexterous with either thumb.  I never could effectively press forward on a light when Im torquing back on a verticle grip unless it was with a thumb.  I may be odd.
5/12/2006 4:34:11 AM EDT
[#8]
Lumpy,

It's probably me who's odd with my short stubby fingers.
5/12/2006 4:44:41 AM EDT
[#9]
I like this.



5/15/2006 11:01:23 AM EDT
[#10]
Neither...

Side offset mount with a "Clickie" tail cap. Best way to prevent a "White Light AD" (Accidental discharge).

Tack
5/15/2006 1:41:32 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
I like this.

img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/comp1911/Guns/Dsc00868.jpg
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Whats the complete setup of the light and mount you got there?

5/15/2006 3:04:25 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I like this.

img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/comp1911/Guns/Dsc00868.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/comp1911/Guns/Dsc00904.jpg
img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/comp1911/Guns/Dsc00946.jpg



Whats the complete setup of the light and mount you got there?




M952 Surefire with momentary - On/Off tail cap and LaRue offset Surefire mount
5/15/2006 6:12:00 PM EDT
[#13]
Thanks.
5/17/2006 9:41:26 PM EDT
[#14]
The offsets look like a good option, although I've never tried one.  I moved mine from 3:00 to 6:00 because of the left side shadow I got from the barrel.  I didn't like the dark spot but do like being able to activate the switch the same way strong or weak hand.
5/17/2006 10:48:15 PM EDT
[#15]
1:30 where the surefire forends put the light

I dont know i just got used to it there, ill post pics of my brightflashlights custom rig here in a week or two.
5/21/2006 4:38:23 AM EDT
[#16]
I mounted my SF M961 with clickie tail cap either at the 3:00 or 6:00.

I'm using a TD VFG and I don't like wires also.
5/21/2006 4:40:35 AM EDT
[#17]
I mounted it to the left side.  I don't have a vert grip, but I have an extended rail, and long thumbs.  Works great for me.  Try all the setups, and see which one YOU like best.  I'd like to try the vert grip and pressure switch, but I'm SOL for funds at the moment.
5/22/2006 6:46:31 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
I never could effectively press forward on a light when Im torquing back on a verticle grip unless it was with a thumb.  I may be odd.




In general, it sucks for a variety of reasons.  Pressing out while pulling in isn't realistic, and under real world stress and encounters, you are only fighting yourself.  

As the pucker factor increases, muscles tighten up.

Postural instability and startle response are two more things that won't help it either.  

Its also a finer motor skill.
5/22/2006 7:07:03 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I never could effectively press forward on a light when Im torquing back on a verticle grip unless it was with a thumb.  I may be odd.




In general, it sucks for a variety of reasons.  Pressing out while pulling in isn't realistic, and under real world stress and encounters, you are only fighting yourself.  

As the pucker factor increases, muscles tighten up.

Postural instability and startle response are two more things that won't help it either.  

Its also a finer motor skill.



I see what you guys are saying and I'm not yet 100% sold on "press out" activation I'm currently using.  I was actually wondering about this but I figured if you can train yourself to press and reset the trigger in stressful situations then this would be workable too.

BTW, I recently saw a Surefire tape switch that has both momentary and constant on and it also mounts directly to the rail.   However I'm still hesitant to try one because I don't like wires and I still can't figure out where to mount such a switch so that it can be easily used with either hand.

Maybe after some more use my light will end up back at the 9 o'clock position...
5/23/2006 8:23:21 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I never could effectively press forward on a light when Im torquing back on a verticle grip unless it was with a thumb.  I may be odd.




In general, it sucks for a variety of reasons.  Pressing out while pulling in isn't realistic, and under real world stress and encounters, you are only fighting yourself.  

As the pucker factor increases, muscles tighten up.

Postural instability and startle response are two more things that won't help it either.  

Its also a finer motor skill.



I see what you guys are saying and I'm not yet 100% sold on "press out" activation I'm currently using.  I was actually wondering about this but I figured if you can train yourself to press and reset the trigger in stressful situations then this would be workable too.

BTW, I recently saw a Surefire tape switch that has both momentary and constant on and it also mounts directly to the rail.   However I'm still hesitant to try one because I don't like wires and I still can't figure out where to mount such a switch so that it can be easily used with either hand.

Maybe after some more use my light will end up back at the 9 o'clock position...



This is interesting, do you have a link to where you saw it?  I couldn't find it on Surfire's website.

TIA

Seydou
5/23/2006 8:34:12 AM EDT
[#22]
Neither...

5/23/2006 9:41:31 PM EDT
[#23]
I've now got a 96 model on my YHM Specter length forend at the 3 o'clock position.  I ran the tape switch back between the rails and have it secured just ahead of the delta ring between the 12 o'clock and 3 o'clock rails.  I used bicycle tube cut into thin rings to secure the tape switch and wire.  This is all temporary until I decide it is the right set-up.  Should work equally well activating it with the left fingers (shooting right handed) or right thumb (shooting left handed).  

I have a vertical foregrip, but I just haven't played with it enough to see if I'm going to go that route.  

Ranger413
5/24/2006 2:35:37 AM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

This is interesting, do you have a link to where you saw it?  I couldn't find it on Surfire's website.

TIA

Seydou



I saw what was referred to as the SR switch on G and R Tacticals website.  I don't know if it's actually for sale yet.  See pic and link below.



www.gandrtactical.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2771
5/24/2006 7:38:02 AM EDT
[#25]
Yojimbo
Thanks for the info/link.  I think it is a great concept especially for those without the dual tail cap.

Seydou
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