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Posted: 5/26/2004 3:25:02 PM EDT
| how do i go about buying a silencer 5.56? |
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I know Lauer Custom Weaponry, just got some in stock. Give them a call - they can walk you through the paperwork LCW Link |
What type/brand do they carry? I didn't see much info on the website. sharp |
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Two routes to go. One is in state purchase and other is out of state purchase. In state is easier and IIRC, less expensive. For in-state, you find a can you want, arrange to but it with the owner (be it dealer or private sale). Find a dealer if not the owner that can handle the trnasfer for you (SOT or C3). You can pay for the can up front from the owner, but if you get turned down for ownership, he is under no obligation to refund your $$. If the owner is a SOT, or C3 he can seel direct if in state with you. Otherwise he will need to transfer the can to the dealer (I think this is a form 4, it's a free transfer) Then the dealer can start paperwork with you. Typically they will send you the Form 3's to fill out and get your LEO signature, along with fingerprints. After this is compiled, you send it back to him and he sends it to ATF, then you sit and wait and dream of the can. After 2-3 months, the transfer should be close to donw after the ATF does background check, and your dealer will contact you to come pick it up. Then he gives you all the completed paperwork, of which a copy needs to be with the can at all times. This is the quick version and I may have left a couple things out, or got them canted a bit. Out of state transfer involves getting it to an in state dealer, regardless of who the seller is. |
Their website is being rebuilt.... I think they are making their own brand (New), they are a Class II SOT manufacturer. (they make their own AR rifles, semi and auto - etc) we have their 22 cal supressor, it is very impressive - and affordable (the 22 cal can retails at $250ish) |
In Colorado call Alen Samuel 303 567 0330 [email protected] |
| If you haven't shot a 223 that has been silenced, you need to. While the noise is reduced it certainly isn't quiet. More like a 22LR going off. Just thought I'd add that, I would hate for you to think it was going to be like a silenced 22 or 45 and then spend all that $$ to find out you still need hearing protection. |
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I have a Tac-Ord 5.56 can that is VERY impressive. It is all Stainlass Steel. It is only 6" in length and 1.5" OD so it is extremely compact too. It is supposed to be in the area of @ a 40db reduction but I have never had it on a meter. You definately don't need hearing protection when you use it. I hope this helps. Jeff Zimba |
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Check out www.titleii.com for information. Do the research to narrow the field, and then find a dealer that has what you're looking for and try to arrange a demo. You'll be purchasing the suppressor on a BATF Form 4, and will need to submitt the completed paperwork including fingerprint card, I.D. picture and CLEO (Chief Law Enforcement Officer) sign off, all in duplicate to the BATF/NFA along with the $200 transfer tax. The approval process usually takes around 90 days, then you can take possession of your suppressor. TNRonin is correct, a suppressed .223 is not quiet, because you still have the ballistic crack of the super-sonic round. Yes there are sub-sonic rounds available for the .223, but they are ridiculously expensive, normally will not cycle the action, and offer ballistics which are no better than a .22 caliber rifle shooting SSS. |
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On the other side of the issue of muzzle crack, the sound is quite audible, but the fact that it bounces off every local hard object still allows for the shooter's location to remain undisclosed, so while it isn't hollywood quiet, there is still reason to have a canned .223. Just don't expect to be able to hear the hammer get cocked back and such. I've got a .30 cal SWR can for my bolt gun. I had my RRA barrel threaded for the .30 cal can and I am still getting great suppression. The .223 sounds a bit quieter than the 308 with supersonic rounds. I think it is due to a different frequency or something. However, the 308 with subsonic rounds is quieter than a loud sneeze or a good cough. |
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I put my WARRIOR on my 22-250.... as the shooter, about all I hear is the fire pin - PUH - thump in the dirt 100 yd away. Not much for flight noise, as the bullet is flying 3900+ FPS (been over a chrono), the crack barely has time to start. On the 223/556 AR, the crack usually starts out about 50-75yd, SSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEWW, similar as a 22LR fire, put remove the muzzle "POP". On a M16, it can get loud as the rounds increase in succession, as the can gets pressurized with muzzle blast, that pressure starts to blow out the front like a rocket engine, besides out the ejection port, and gets seriously loud to the shooter and by-standers listening. |
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The silencer used when I shot it on a true M4 was an AWC, unfortunately I haven't had the chance shoot any others. We were in a shallow hollow (valley for you yankees) with many trees so I may not have seen the true benefit of the suppression. I just know that it was not as quiet as I had hoped. Now with that said, I certainly didn't want to hear it w/o the suppressor and no ears on. Now the MP5SD I shot was super sweet! Subsonic ammo was better than watching the hollywood stuff! |
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