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6/28/2007 9:52:29 AM EDT
this may be stupid to ask, but i'm about to sight in a scope on my first AR and need to know the best way to single load.  Directly in the chamber, or is it best to just put one in a mag, fire, remove the mag, load one and hit the bolt catch (rinse and repeat).  i know i could do the mag thing, but not sure if its wise to drop one in the chamber and release the bolt on a round in the chamber.

sorry if its been asked before
6/28/2007 11:20:56 AM EDT
[#1]
im not sure either. but i would recommend loading into a mag.  droping on in the chamber itself is fine for most guns but the way the bolt operates on the AR is so violent during the release that i would worry about an accidental discharge while loading like this.

out of curiosity why would you do this anyway? why not just load up a mag and shoot one shot at a time, adjusting the scope as you go?
6/28/2007 12:14:24 PM EDT
[#2]
You want to load the mag even for single fire.
6/28/2007 1:02:38 PM EDT
[#3]
The closest range to my house that's long enough to sight in a rifle only allows one round at a time.  Might be the case here?
6/28/2007 1:15:41 PM EDT
[#4]
Just drop it in....  give it a little "push" into the throat, close the bolt and fire it.  
6/28/2007 1:17:25 PM EDT
[#5]
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Quoted:
You want to load the mag even for single fire.


my worry was slam fires, i will load the mag... thanks for the replies guys...

the reason why i do this sometimes is just to break my sight picture and make me concentrate on each shot.  It slows me down is really the biggest issue.  i do it when sighting in and when grouping new guns.  Just haven't had to do it with an AR until now.
6/28/2007 1:27:21 PM EDT
[#6]
AR's are a push feed, not a controlled feed design. The only difference between dropping a round in the chamber and feeding one from the mag is it takes some energy to strip a round from the magazine, but its not much. The faster closure speed will not induce a slam fire.

The only guns you cant drop rounds into are controlled feed designs as the extractors are not designed to snap over the rim, the rim slides under the extractor, ala 1911.
6/28/2007 1:27:47 PM EDT
[#7]
disconnect the gas tube? (from the front sight)

then you have to use the charging handle for each one out of the mag.

Morcoth
6/28/2007 1:29:05 PM EDT
[#8]
RRA sells a single shot loader, tempted to get one myself. Made of delrin.
6/28/2007 1:34:55 PM EDT
[#9]
That single loader ramp works well... and makes things a little easier.  That being said, you shouldn't get a "slam fire".  When shooting a HP match, there are two stages shot single fire, but timed.  NO ONE reloads mags for that.  

Just drop it in and release the bolt.  If you want to, you can give it a little "shove" with your finger, into the throat.
6/28/2007 1:38:12 PM EDT
[#10]
It is a common thing to put a round on top of a mag already in the rifle, push the shell into the chamber with the index finger, push the bolt release and let the bolt zing it into the chamber during slow fire in NRA Highpower.

Accuracy? these folks are trying to clean a target at 600 yards. The Army and Marine Marksmanship units do it that way.....

Single round followers line up the round better with the chamber, I guess it matters if you have fat fingers...... or not.
6/28/2007 1:44:57 PM EDT
[#11]
My AR came with a funky 9 round mag.  Bought an aluminum single follower from Fulton and installed it on that mag.  Works fine for benchshots.  Loads from the port.  Drop it on the follower.  Press the bolt release and go.
6/28/2007 1:51:38 PM EDT
[#12]
Traditionally (from the early days of Garand shooting), one does not manually load a round into a semiauto rifle's chamber because of the possibility of a slam fire.  Garands used to do this-may still do it-due to the nature of the firing pin design and the bolt's (quite respectable) velocity.  I have never single-loaded my Garand directly into the chamber and I doubt I will, simply because I do not wish to be a guinea pig for whether my rifle will slam or not.  Nor have I single loaded my AR, but primarily for a different reason: my fingers are too big to stick a round into the chamber through the ejection port!
6/28/2007 2:52:19 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
disconnect the gas tube? (from the front sight)

then you have to use the charging handle for each one out of the mag.

Morcoth


I do not think this would be a good idea, you would get a face full of hot gas.
6/28/2007 4:22:23 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
The closest range to my house that's long enough to sight in a rifle only allows one round at a time.  Might be the case here?


Please tell them to get bent!!    I look at that kind of crap as discrimination!

I was a member of 3 ranges at one point and all three started doing stupid crap like that.  I dropped my membership to all of them!!  Stupid crap like that really takes the fun out of shooting.

Now I belong to a range nicer than all three of the previous combined and has a shooting distance of all three combined (600yds)

6/28/2007 4:33:09 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:
disconnect the gas tube? (from the front sight)

then you have to use the charging handle for each one out of the mag.

Morcoth


I do not think this would be a good idea, you would get a face full of hot gas.

Not if you  put the gas tube in backwards...DAMHIK
7/7/2007 3:55:35 PM EDT
[#16]
I no this is a WAY old post but...... when i went to sight in my eo-tech i met the guy i usuall shoot with at the range and he usually brings the ammo and mags.. well this time he didnt but it just so happened that he had 1000rnds of .223 Federal AE that i purchased off a friends of his.. anyway i sighted in my RRA one round at a time w/ no mag.. WHAT A PAIN THAT WAS...  
7/7/2007 4:06:49 PM EDT
[#17]
For single loading an AR I usually drop the round in the port with a mag inserted and then push it into the chamber with my pinky. Everyone in high-power does it, and it's never been a problem.

I didn't used to push it into the chamber, but now I have one round with a neat bolt lug indentation smashed into the shoulder...
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