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7/29/2004 1:40:02 PM EDT
how safe are tracers in a blackrifle? some say that the tracer "lights" after it leaves the barrel and leaves nothing in the barrel. or doesnt corrode the barrel? putting a tracer every 3 shot, shouldnt the other 2 rounds "clean" the barrel? my dad warned me against them, i kindof agree bc they are expensive but sound fun? any thoughts or advice?
7/29/2004 2:18:49 PM EDT
[#1]
I've shot tracers for many many years and I don't think the effects are really that harmful.  Read more about it from the ammo-oracle.com but tracers definitely do leave "something" in the barrel...when I go to clean, it looks different and smells different.

I usually only shoot tracers at night at the end of the day and I do as many as 100 in a row but before I pack up and leave, I pop off 30 regular rounds...just in case there is something to the "cleaning" aspect.

Tracers are not that expensive when you buy them in bulk, but they sure are a lot of fun to shoot.  They are completely safe (non-corrosive) and  I have yet to start a fire with one (mostly because I shoot them up into the air, not into the ground at close range) but in the military on full-auto with 2 dozen shooters, we'd set the whole area ablaze....so be careful.
7/30/2004 5:21:55 AM EDT
[#2]
kensteele,
Shooting tracer or any type of ammo into the air does not sound very safe and responsible..
7/30/2004 9:24:40 AM EDT
[#3]
I'm not backing shooting into the air aimlessly but I will add that a .223 bullet falling from being shot straight up will not have enough velocity to really hurt you.... unless you look up and it hits you right in the eyeball.

It wont even break the skin, the worst you'd probably get is a small bruise.



7/30/2004 9:42:11 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
kensteele,
Shooting tracer or any type of ammo into the air does not sound very safe and responsible..



ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=20&t=182044

I hope this explains some of my habits.  I always make sure there are no manmade objects or structures as far as 2 or 3 miles.  Sometimes I can even see that far (especially when it is from mountain to mountain or across canyons) but other times I have to walk it or drive it to be sure.  The place I open up in are completely remote and it's more likely a lone camper/hiker would be struck by lightning than my rounds.  So usually I'm shooting across and thru places where no one can really be.  I never go to private farms/lands or public shooting ranges and even if I did, I wouldn't fire in the air.  Too much stuff nearby that could be hit.

Here's a pic from Arizona:

7/30/2004 10:02:56 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:
kensteele,
Shooting tracer or any type of ammo into the air does not sound very safe and responsible..



ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=20&t=182044

I hope this explains some of my habits.  I always make sure there are no manmade objects or structures as far as 2 or 3 miles.  Sometimes I can even see that far (especially when it is from mountain to mountain or across canyons) but other times I have to walk it or drive it to be sure.  The place I open up in are completely remote and it's more likely a lone camper/hiker would be struck by lightning than my rounds.  So usually I'm shooting across and thru places where no one can really be.  I never go to private farms/lands or public shooting ranges and even if I did, I wouldn't fire in the air.  Too much stuff nearby that could be hit.

Here's a pic from Arizona:
img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/kensteele/AR15/arizona1.bmp
img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/kensteele/AR15/arizona2.bmp



we will soon see those mountains ablaze fro your tracer fire....

7/30/2004 10:11:16 AM EDT
[#6]
Shooting in the air (straight up or off into the distance), I don't care if it's in the middle of the desert, is reckless and irresponsible.  

Regarding tracers, understand that M856 tracers won't stabilize out of a 1:9 barrel.  You'll need the 55-grain tracers if you're shooting a 1:9.

They should not hurt your barrel.  The tracer compound doesn't even start to burn until the bullet is many yards down range.

Tracers CAN cause fires.  Please be very careful if you're just spraying tracers into the air.  You do NOT know exactly where they will land.  If you just want to see pretty colors in the night why not buy some fireworks?  They are a lot safer than shooting bullets in the air.
7/30/2004 10:11:38 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
kensteele,
Shooting tracer or any type of ammo into the air does not sound very safe and responsible..



ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=20&t=182044

I hope this explains some of my habits.  I always make sure there are no manmade objects or structures as far as 2 or 3 miles.  Sometimes I can even see that far (especially when it is from mountain to mountain or across canyons) but other times I have to walk it or drive it to be sure.  The place I open up in are completely remote and it's more likely a lone camper/hiker would be struck by lightning than my rounds.  So usually I'm shooting across and thru places where no one can really be.  I never go to private farms/lands or public shooting ranges and even if I did, I wouldn't fire in the air.  Too much stuff nearby that could be hit.

Here's a pic from Arizona:


we will soon see those mountains ablaze fro your tracer fire....




Oops!  Yes forgot to mention, no tracers in the summer or during fire season, shoot only into the bare mountains/rocks, and/or shoot up high enough in the air that tracers go out long before they hit the ground.  If I shoot in the ground, then I hang around long enough (a few hours) to make sure a fire doesn't start up....I really don't need a "fire" bill in the mail from the Forest Service.  
7/30/2004 10:16:00 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Shooting in the air (straight up or off into the distance), I don't care if it's in the middle of the desert, is reckless and irresponsible.  

Regarding tracers, understand that M856 tracers won't stabilize out of a 1:9 barrel.  You'll need the 55-grain tracers if you're shooting a 1:9.

They should not hurt your barrel.  The tracer compound doesn't even start to burn until the bullet is many yards down range.

Tracers CAN cause fires.  Please be very careful if you're just spraying tracers into the air.  You do NOT know exactly where they will land.  If you just want to see pretty colors in the night why not buy some fireworks?  They are a lot safer than shooting bullets in the air.



Exactly the reason why I don't shoot those incendiary rounds.
7/30/2004 7:58:45 PM EDT
[#9]
The M856 tracer will leave no residue in the barrel.  The round will not ignite till it's around 70 to 100 yards out of the barrel.  Besides it first igniting almost 100 yards out, the tracer element is not exposed but fired by a "primer" at the back of the projectile which is covered by a copper element.  The old M196 55 grain tracer burnt instantly because the tracer compound was exposed and ignited by the burning powder and those left a residue in the barrel.  The only time I generally shoot tracers is at our 600 yard range near dusk and when it's damp or a day after it rained.  The 5.56 tracers go out fairly quickly but it's the .30 cal tracers that burn quite a while.  I've seen .30 cal tracer from my M1 fly 650 yards into an earth berm, shoot up into the air a good 300 feet, land and still smolder for 2 more seconds.  Man did that look cool!!!!!!!
7/30/2004 8:06:13 PM EDT
[#10]
i was kidding about the mountains ablaze

but you must be carefull


hey, come to think of it there has been a large rash of forest fires lately
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