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Posted: 11/20/2023 2:45:50 AM EDT
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Question for those with more expertise: I'm on somewhat of a budget, and looking for a good carbine setup. Is there a drawback to running a dual vis/IR unit plus a Surefire Vampire compared to a V-cell laser/illuminator unit? The lasers-only unit runs about $850, and a vampire is $400ish. The laser/illuminator runs $1800-2k. Is there a huge advantage to one unit for everything? Looking at the DesignatIR at Arisaka's site, it seems the vampire head and V-cell illuminator are about the same mw rating. If I went with the laser/light combo, I'd probably run it off the modlite dual pad to get both with one button press. |
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Run an affordable excellent white light (ie: malkoff) and a Vulcan Bravo https://www.3eir.com/product/vulcan-ir-v-bravo-black/ That gives you a great white, great illuminator, and IR laser for probably <1k. To answer your question I actually have an IR laser-illuminator along with an M600v head on a CTF-2 body (which has the switches and IR aiming laser). The laser illuminator gives me long-range tight illumination and the M600v head can give me short-mid range wide angle CQB illumination or a short-mid range white light. I find a useful setup. |
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So the vampire has alot of flood. Too much imo. I don't like it when rhe light splashes the supressor/rail, and the ground 4 feet in front of me. The vcel/ phosphor heads will go for miles. Nice tight circle with minimal flood. I have an IR surefire head from a company called z-bolt. It is a stronger illuminator than any of the civ model lam units I've used. About $350. Head can be twisted and focused. I may have one for sale honestly. If I can find it. Attached File Attached File |
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Quoted: So the vampire has alot of flood. Too much imo. I don't like it when rhe light splashes the supressor/rail, and the ground 4 feet in front of me. The vcel/ phosphor heads will go for miles. Nice tight circle with minimal flood. I have an IR surefire head from a company called z-bolt. It is a stronger illuminator than any of the civ model lam units I've used. About $350. Head can be twisted and focused. I may have one for sale honestly. If I can find it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285899/Screenshot_20231016_175423_Chrome_jpg-3033793.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285899/Screenshot_20231016_175428_Chrome_jpg-3033794.JPG Damn, thats some serious IR illum |
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Quoted: Run an affordable excellent white light (ie: malkoff) and a Vulcan Bravo https://www.3eir.com/product/vulcan-ir-v-bravo-black/ That gives you a great white, great illuminator, and IR laser for probably <1k. To answer your question I actually have an IR laser-illuminator along with an M600v head on a CTF-2 body (which has the switches and IR aiming laser). The laser illuminator gives me long-range tight illumination and the M600v head can give me short-mid range wide angle CQB illumination or a short-mid range white light. I find a useful setup. Is the Bravo actually available for purchase now? I remember the website going live, but it appears I still can't actually buy it from their webstore. I have an old M600 body and tailcap begging for one of these, but they don't appear to want to take my money 
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Quoted: So the vampire has alot of flood. Too much imo. I don't like it when rhe light splashes the supressor/rail, and the ground 4 feet in front of me. The vcel/ phosphor heads will go for miles. Nice tight circle with minimal flood. I have an IR surefire head from a company called z-bolt. It is a stronger illuminator than any of the civ model lam units I've used. About $350. Head can be twisted and focused. I may have one for sale honestly. If I can find it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285899/Screenshot_20231016_175423_Chrome_jpg-3033793.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285899/Screenshot_20231016_175428_Chrome_jpg-3033794.JPG Quoted: So the vampire has alot of flood. Too much imo. I don't like it when rhe light splashes the supressor/rail, and the ground 4 feet in front of me. The vcel/ phosphor heads will go for miles. Nice tight circle with minimal flood. I have an IR surefire head from a company called z-bolt. It is a stronger illuminator than any of the civ model lam units I've used. About $350. Head can be twisted and focused. I may have one for sale honestly. If I can find it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285899/Screenshot_20231016_175423_Chrome_jpg-3033793.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285899/Screenshot_20231016_175428_Chrome_jpg-3033794.JPG Is that the focusable Z-bolt IR illuminator? That’s a nice beam. Quoted: @Millennial that Vulcan is an ir illlum & laser all based on a 1 cell SF body? That’s about the perfect setup for my day rifle. My OG Vulcan (illuminator only) works with pretty much any battery combo; 3v/4.2v/6v. You’ll want to confirm the Bravo & Delta are the same though. @bdover |
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