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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - 1895 SBL threading (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 12/7/2017 1:50:47 PM EDT
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So I just picked up a Marlin 1895 SBL, now to have it threaded for a Silencerco Hybrid.
Any recommended gunsmiths for this? Any feedback from owners of a similar setup is welcome. |
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So I just picked up a Marlin 1895 SBL, now to have it threaded for a Silencerco Hybrid. Any recommended gunsmiths for this? Any feedback from owners of a similar setup is welcome. That said, are your sights perpendicular to your receiver? I have been VERY skeptical of Remington quality since Marlin was sold to Remington. I wouldn't mind a nice 44 Magnum lever action with a big loop lever and extended scope base, but I'd take a Rossi over a Marlington these days. |
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Class 3 machining did mine too.
Not completely happy with it but it was partially my fault for not being explicitly clear about what I wanted done and assuming he understood. Attached File Rather than shortening back the plug and end of the mag tube for clearance he shortened the receiver end of the tube and cut another dovetail in the barrel. I had to shorten the follower to get the 6th round in and it still doesn't want to go because the spring is binding. I still need to order another mag tube and maybe a spare end plug to do it the way I want it. |
Your job was done correctly and same way i have done hundreds of them. Here is your only "instructions"  you sent.
And as we said on the phone we can't reuse that original dovetail, impossible once you thread. All the ones you see pics of were shortened with dovetail and tube flush with shoulder.  Quoted:
Class 3 machining did mine too. Not completely happy with it but it was partially my fault for not being explicitly clear about what I wanted done and assuming he understood. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/34327/IMG_5292-386003.JPG Rather than shortening back the plug and end of the mag tube for clearance he shortened the receiver end of the tube and cut another dovetail in the barrel. I had to shorten the follower to get the 6th round in and it still doesn't want to go because the spring is binding. I still need to order another mag tube and maybe a spare end plug to do it the way I want it. |
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And like I said it was my fault for not being explicitly clear and assuming what I wanted done was the common practice. The work you did is fine.
Shorten the mag tube plug. Make it identical on both sides of the screw hole. Shorten the muzzle end of the tube. In the pic I put up with the plug slid onto the stud in the original dovetail there is still clearance between it and the suppressor. |
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And like I said it was my fault for not being explicitly clear and assuming what I wanted done was the common practice. The work you did is fine. Shorten the mag tube plug. Make it identical on both sides of the screw hole. Shorten the muzzle end of the tube. In the pic I put up with the plug slid onto the stud in the original dovetail there is still clearance between it and the suppressor. Don't want people thinking I did something incorrectly. |
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I'm not trying to say you did it wrong. I wasn't clear on my instructions. I assumed that shortening the plug and tip of the tube was what everyone did because I've never seen another one with 2 dovetail cuts or looked like the barrel had been shortened.
I flipped it to show there is enough room. It shouldn't need the shoulder on the plug to hold the tube. The tube is still held by the stud and the screw. You could silver solder the plug into the end of the tube if someone is worried about it flying apart. Wouldn't hurt anything other than being different stepping and putting it back together. You said you with the was another way to do it without cutting another dovetail. There it is. ETA: I reassembled and rezeroed the gun after I got it back and it has been sitting in the safe since. I just finally ordered another mag tube and sacrificial plug so hopeful in the next week I can post pics for proof of concept. |
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I'm not trying to say you did it wrong. I wasn't clear on my instructions. I assumed that shortening the plug and tip of the tube was what everyone did because I've never seen another one with 2 dovetail cuts or looked like the barrel had been shortened. I flipped it to show there is enough room. It shouldn't need the shoulder on the plug to hold the tube. The tube is still held by the stud and the screw. You could silver solder the plug into the end of the tube if someone is worried about it flying apart. Wouldn't hurt anything other than being different stepping and putting it back together. You said you with the was another way to do it without cutting another dovetail. There it is. ETA: I reassembled and rezeroed the gun after I got it back and it has been sitting in the safe since. I just finally ordered another mag tube and sacrificial plug so hopeful in the next week I can post pics for proof of concept. That post made it look like I was partially to blame. "Thread to 5/8x24 shorten tube as needed" The vast majority of ones I do it wouldn't matter on. 1. We cut them down, so new tube is flush with shoulder anyway. 2. The one with longer barrel than the tube, these are all flush mount. |
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If you go back to our initial email exchange.
"Ok. Just to be clear I only want the mag tube and plug shortened enough for suppressor clearance, not enough to reduce capacity." Shorten the tube and plug, not cut another dovetail and night them back. Your reply to that read as if what I was asking for was standard procedure. |
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You emailed me in April, never sent it in. Then in September (5 months later) you started asking me where to send it etc on Facebook (with no mention of the work from the email). Ya, didn't remember what we talked about 5 months prior to receiving it. Quoted:
If you go back to our initial email exchange. "Ok. Just to be clear I only want the mag tube and plug shortened enough for suppressor clearance, not enough to reduce capacity." Shorten the tube and plug, not cut another dovetail and night them back. Your reply to that read as if what I was asking for was standard procedure. |
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Like I said, your reply made it sound like what I wanted was standard procedure.
I didn't post to trash your work. Sorry if it came off that way. I just didn't want the op or anyone else to end up in the same position as me. I just wanted to show what is apparently the common practice for you vs what is possible, what I wanted done and the advantages of that. |
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Like I said, your reply made it sound like what I wanted was standard procedure. I didn't post to trash your work. Sorry if it came off that way. I just didn't want the op or anyone else to end up in the same position as me. I just wanted to show what is apparently the common practice for you vs what is possible, what I wanted done and the advantages of that. Would of been a much easier job on my end as well, those dovetails are tedious. I like your idea, and if people didn't mind not having a cap would be a great option for some. If you need that plug or anything modified just let me know and will get it done free. |
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Any competent smith should be able to thread your barrel, its pretty easy. The new Marlins are fantastic and you might see some factory threaded versions just down the road  |
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Tagged for info. I need a 357 suppressed lever gun bad. Real bad. Would love to find something in all stainless but I don't know if that even exists. |
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This thread is right up my alley.
I am interested in a threaded lever gun for my Hybrid to sit on. I'm thinking either .45 colt or 45/70 I don't want to blow multiple thousands. What models are the best to have threaded? Any to stay away from? Sorry for the hijack |
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Attached File Attached File Attached File Excellent work by @eastTXhunter as usual. 357 Henry 16 incher. By far the most fun at the range with 38spl. |
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It holds a full 6 rounds again! I'm going to leave the plug alone and not worry about soldering it in or anything else. The plug is holding the spring force. The only forward and rearward force on the tube is its own weight during recoil.
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Any competent smith should be able to thread your barrel, its pretty easy. The new Marlins are fantastic and you might see some factory threaded versions just down the road 
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It holds a full 6 rounds again! I'm going to leave the plug alone and not worry about soldering it in or anything else. The plug is holding the spring force. The only forward and rearward force on the tube is its own weight during recoil. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/34327/IMG_5321-391343.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/34327/IMG_5323-391344.JPG I could be wrong. |
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Any competent smith should be able to thread your barrel, its pretty easy. The new Marlins are fantastic and you might see some factory threaded versions just down the road |
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Need a timeline on these factory threaded lever guns, that may affect my upcoming purchases! |
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Quoted: I would go ahead and build what you want rather than wait for Remington to build what you want. Played this game too many times. The pistol cal lever guns are already hard to find and the 357’s are unicorns. |
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I understand what you communicating. From my reading of the posts here, Remington will not be building these guns. If they are, it will be in collaboration. Quoted:
Quoted: I would go ahead and build what you want rather than wait for Remington to build what you want. Played this game too many times. The pistol cal lever guns are already hard to find and the 357’s are unicorns. I’ve been doing this a long time. I really hope they build some cool stuff but lots of people have just been waiting for a plain Jane 357 and they’ve had almost zero availability for the better part of a decade or more. |
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Page 10-11 of the 2018 Marlin catalog https://i.imgur.com/ApuAYju.jpg You didn't get this from us |
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It's my understanding the .357 will be followed by a .44 mag, then other calibers. This will be an ongoing evolution, not a one-time thing. Mike Smith/AAC SilentMike Can you comment on other finishes? I'd prefer blued over SS on a 357 lever but obviously beggars can't be choosers |
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The all-weathers are, in all likelihood, going to be the first of any caliber released. If demand for blued/carbon-steel trumps the all-weather plan, we will respond accordingly.Other finished may be available through the custom shop, but that has yet to be determined.
Mike Smith/AAC SilentMike |
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The all-weathers are, in all likelihood, going to be the first of any caliber released. If demand for blued/carbon-steel trumps the all-weather plan, we will respond accordingly.Other finished may be available through the custom shop, but that has yet to be determined. Mike Smith/AAC SilentMike 
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The all-weathers are, in all likelihood, going to be the first of any caliber released. If demand for blued/carbon-steel trumps the all-weather plan, we will respond accordingly.Other finished may be available through the custom shop, but that has yet to be determined. Mike Smith/AAC SilentMike |
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Morgan does amazing work at a blazing fast speed for a crazy cheap price. Can't get better than that. AMAZING work. If it can be done, Morgan can do it. |
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