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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - High round count PCC's and how they well they do or don't handle long-term use. (Page 2 of 2)
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My experience with full auto MPX rental guns (I'm a 07/02 and have converted a ton) is the weak link of the system is the piston. Sig vehemently denies it, but the only part of the guns we ever have to service is the piston. we get slivers of jacket material and ton of carbon buildup, and if they aren't serviced fairly regularly, the piston will seize up preventing it from going into battery.
We literally take the guns apart, clean the piston, then put them back together without needing to service any other part of them.
We don't go through ammo at the same rate as BFV, but our oldest has over 30k on it and is still going strong. |
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My experience with full auto MPX rental guns (I'm a 07/02 and have converted a ton) is the weak link of the system is the piston. Sig vehemently denies it, but the only part of the guns we ever have to service is the piston. we get slivers of jacket material and ton of carbon buildup, and if they aren't serviced fairly regularly, the piston will seize up preventing it from going into battery. We literally take the guns apart, clean the piston, then put them back together without needing to service any other part of them.
We don't go through ammo at the same rate as BFV, but our oldest has over 30k on it and is still going strong. |
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How often are you having to clean the MPX? Have you changed the barrel on the MPX with 30,000 rounds on it? |
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To all the MPX shooter here,
Keith Garcia shot the Lucas Oil PCC Championship match this past weekend and posted this on IG. "I've learned that PCC is the hardest gun I've shot to keep running and avoid penalties. I do love shooting this MPX" When asked "What other problems did you have with the MPX?" He replied "You have to change all the small parts on the bolt" The only small parts on the bolt is the extractor and the extractor pin. I only have 900-1000 rounds on my MPX from Steel Challenge and USPSA matches and I've not had any issues. I'm sure Keith has thousands of rounds thru his MPX so he would know more than I. I wish he'd been more specific about what his issues were. Hoping the OP can provide more specifics on the MPX. |
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When asked "What other problems did you have with the MPX?" He replied "You have to change all the small parts on the bolt" The only small parts on the bolt is the extractor and the extractor pin. |
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3 firing pins? Geez how many rounds |
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I broke the first one in the first 500 rounds. The second went a little after the 5K mark. Sig sent me a new bolt carrier with a spring on the firing pin and that one has been fine so far. I am running a Hiperfire 24c which may be contributing to the breakage. Quoted:
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3 firing pins? Geez how many rounds My first thought was it was still in the bolt, then maybe that it had escaped and it didn't notice. So after searching for something that didnt exist I called Sig and they told me the new MPX did not have a spring on the firing pin. The pin was there for models sold to LE/MiL that insisted on it to meet their criteria. Mine has been fine without it. Like I said I have approx 900-1000 rounds thru it so far. |
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That's interesting because he first time I took my MPX apart to clean it I discovered there wasn't a firing pin spring in mine. The booklet clearly showed a spring for the firing pin. My first thought was it was still in the bolt, then maybe that it had escaped and it didn't notice. So after searching for something that didnt exist I called Sig and they told me the new MPX did not have a spring on the firing pin. The pin was there for models sold to LE/MiL that insisted on it to meet their criteria. Mine has been fine without it. Like I said I have approx 900-1000 rounds thru it so far. |
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Well that's BS, because my less than a month old MPX has a FP spring. Quoted:
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That's interesting because he first time I took my MPX apart to clean it I discovered there wasn't a firing pin spring in mine. The booklet clearly showed a spring for the firing pin. My first thought was it was still in the bolt, then maybe that it had escaped and it didn't notice. So after searching for something that didnt exist I called Sig and they told me the new MPX did not have a spring on the firing pin. The pin was there for models sold to LE/MiL that insisted on it to meet their criteria. Mine has been fine without it. Like I said I have approx 900-1000 rounds thru it so far. |
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That's interesting because he first time I took my MPX apart to clean it I discovered there wasn't a firing pin spring in mine. The booklet clearly showed a spring for the firing pin. My first thought was it was still in the bolt, then maybe that it had escaped and it didn't notice. So after searching for something that didnt exist I called Sig and they told me the new MPX did not have a spring on the firing pin. The pin was there for models sold to LE/MiL that insisted on it to meet their criteria. Mine has been fine without it. Like I said I have approx 900-1000 rounds thru it so far. ask them....and get back to us. I've made the call already. Sig Sauer Product Service (603) 610-3000 ext 1 I've had no issues without it. I've shot Steel Challenge and USPSA with it every month since I bought it. Gen1 has the spring. Gen2 did not. Now the newest Gen2 have the spring. Clear as mud? Like I said call Sig. |
[ARCHIVED THREAD] - High round count PCC's and how they well they do or don't handle long-term use. (Page 2 of 2)
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