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2/12/2008 5:02:40 PM EDT


Now I could use something like this!  This one says .45 ACP on the barrel.  Sorry I don't have any more info.  Maybe someone else will chime in.
2/12/2008 6:29:51 PM EDT
[#1]
Makes me what to get a MSAR AUG.  

I would like to know if you could but a .223 MSAR STG-556 and then buy a conversion kit for 9mm or 45, or if you have to buy one AUG clone in .223 and another in 9mm.
2/12/2008 6:40:10 PM EDT
[#2]
It looks like a lot of fun, but it's true strength is in 5.56. It's a lot of money for a plinker.
2/12/2008 7:05:44 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
I would like to know if you could but a .223 MSAR STG-556 and then buy a conversion kit for 9mm or 45, or if you have to buy one AUG clone in .223 and another in 9mm.


Well you would need at minumum a stock, bolt, and barrel. Not sure if they could get .45 to feed correctly without any trunion modifications, but it is possible to fit the cartridge in the opening atleast.
2/12/2008 7:09:58 PM EDT
[#4]
Pretty interesting
2/12/2008 7:16:28 PM EDT
[#5]
FWIW, my wholesaler has them listed for about $400 less than the .223 models. The price may change before they get delivered though. We'll see.
2/12/2008 7:24:22 PM EDT
[#6]
To hell with both calibers, I want some 357sig or 10mm
2/12/2008 8:42:13 PM EDT
[#7]
The Carbine Glock should have built.

Seriously though how long have people been waiting for a Glock Carbine?  Well, this is probably as close as we'll ever get to what we want.
2/13/2008 4:25:38 AM EDT
[#8]
Boy the 9mm could be a good substitute for the MP5 with a real barrel.  How much will these sell for?
2/13/2008 4:42:36 AM EDT
[#9]
If these are $400 less, don't .223's go for about $2000?  

$1600 is a lot for a pistol caliber bullpup.

Get that down to about $1100-$1200 and now you are talking.
2/13/2008 5:17:55 AM EDT
[#10]
I disagree with the dedicated molded mag well, should have been a muli-cal rifle with magwell inserts like the original. would have made the price worth while, now it is limited to pistol cal's which while interesting is outmoded
2/13/2008 6:32:58 AM EDT
[#11]
Just to give you guys some info on the new MCS (Modular Carbine System). To answer your questions this is a modular carbine that can be converted throughout a host of calibers of your choice... 9mm/10mm/40SW/45ACP/45GAP/357SIG. All it takes to do so is a barrel, bolt face, and a mag well adapter. The removable adapters are available in two sizes... one size for 9mm, 40SW, 357SIG, 45GAP, and one size for 10mm and 45ACP. This is all converted without the use of any tools.The target weight will be 4.5 lbs or lighter. The MCS will have an external bolt release, cross safety, quick detach 41V50 chrome lined barrel w/ removable flash hider so a suppressor can be used. Action is a mass blowback system. The MCS uses any of the hi-cap glock mags of which there are millions in circulation. All of the MSAR rail accessories will adapt to this system. MSRP on any caliber variation w/1.5 optic will be $1259.00 Any carbine with a 9" inch top rail and no optic will MSRP for $995.00 making this system probably the best value you will see on any firearm in a long time. Notice the new/additional sling quick detach points in the pics.

~ Tony Marfione




2/13/2008 6:55:50 AM EDT
[#12]
That's pretty f'in cool right there...
2/13/2008 7:00:17 AM EDT
[#13]
how short could the barrel on one of these be cut for mounting a suppressor?
2/13/2008 7:01:45 AM EDT
[#14]
$995 for no optic?  

I gotta have one!  
2/13/2008 7:10:25 AM EDT
[#15]
that is pretty sweet
2/13/2008 7:16:20 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
$995 for no optic?  

I gotta have one!  


+1
2/13/2008 7:35:40 AM EDT
[#17]
When,when,when????
2/13/2008 7:37:06 AM EDT
[#18]
Are you going to have "Lefty" bolts for us lefty guys?
2/13/2008 8:17:31 AM EDT
[#19]
I've always wanted a 357sig carbine. If this works out well and stays in that price range, chalk me down for one.

Any chance of one using the tokarev 7.62x25? Now THAT is an even meaner round.
2/13/2008 8:22:06 AM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Any chance of one using the tokarev 7.62x25? Now THAT is an even meaner round.



make it to use PPSh mags...that would kick ass!
2/13/2008 9:20:52 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
Are you going to have "Lefty" bolts for us lefty guys?


If I am not mistaken, this is fully ambidextrous, you can change the ejection port to the left and change everything else to accomodate us lefty's!

That has always been one issue inherent with Bullpup designs.
2/13/2008 9:35:42 AM EDT
[#22]
Ummm, $995.00 for no optic MSRP?  

Wow, a lot of folks are going to buy this pup.  

 
2/13/2008 10:12:43 AM EDT
[#23]
yes....I was told $995 at shot show.....there are a couple more pics in my thread in the shot show 08 section
2/13/2008 12:35:28 PM EDT
[#24]
Oh hell yeah I just found my pistol caliber carbine.  And it takes glock mags too
2/13/2008 2:02:38 PM EDT
[#25]
I was going to pick up an oly that takes glock mags but this is much cooler.

Anyone have a release date and a url for MSAR?
2/13/2008 2:26:50 PM EDT
[#26]
I'm in............

And I own page 2
2/13/2008 3:12:31 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
Just to give you guys some info on the new MCS (Modular Carbine System). To answer your questions this is a modular carbine that can be converted throughout a host of calibers of your choice... 9mm/10mm/40SW/45ACP/45GAP/357SIG. All it takes to do so is a barrel, bolt face, and a mag well adapter. The removable adapters are available in two sizes... one size for 9mm, 40SW, 357SIG, 45GAP, and one size for 10mm and 45ACP. This is all converted without the use of any tools.The target weight will be 4.5 lbs or lighter. The MCS will have an external bolt release, cross safety, quick detach 41V50 chrome lined barrel w/ removable flash hider so a suppressor can be used. Action is a mass blowback system. The MCS uses any of the hi-cap glock mags of which there are millions in circulation. All of the MSAR rail accessories will adapt to this system. MSRP on any caliber variation w/1.5 optic will be $1259.00 Any carbine with a 9" inch top rail and no optic will MSRP for $995.00 making this system probably the best value you will see on any firearm in a long time. Notice the new/additional sling quick detach points in the pics.

~ Tony Marfione

www.msarinc.com/mcs1.jpg
www.msarinc.com/mcs2.jpg
www.msarinc.com/mcs3.jpg
www.msarinc.com/mcs4.jpg


Outstanding!  Count me in... love my STG-556!
2/13/2008 3:20:50 PM EDT
[#28]
Put me down for one minus the optic.  Where do I send the FFL to?
2/13/2008 3:25:14 PM EDT
[#29]
Midwest Gun in northwest Indiana has about 40 of the .223 models in stock. I checked one out last week and they are very nice looking. The price was a bit too high for me at $1800 with no optics.

Idlike to hear from the guys who have shot one first before I would even think of buying it at that price.
2/13/2008 3:58:50 PM EDT
[#30]
At those quoted MSRPs it might take the place of the SBR AR in 9mm I was planning. What is the OAL as pictured?
2/13/2008 4:18:59 PM EDT
[#31]
Looks like the same as the 16" barrel 5.56x45 STG 556 so around 27" OAL.

2/13/2008 7:40:28 PM EDT
[#32]
Show me where I can find a STG-556 for "MSRP on any caliber variation w/1.5 optic will be $1259.00" I'll buy it today!
I have heard the price was going to come down but I have yet to see it.
2/13/2008 8:01:47 PM EDT
[#33]
Thats the MSRP for the new pistol cal carbines, the .223 isn't coming down that much. These rifles aren't available anywhere yet.
2/14/2008 9:53:42 AM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:
When,when,when????


Once again, when,when,when????
2/14/2008 10:26:08 AM EDT
[#35]
They should be available in August 2008. I personally can't wait either.. I'm a 10mm and .40SW fan big time!!!
2/14/2008 11:20:48 AM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
August 2008.


2/14/2008 5:46:09 PM EDT
[#37]
Wow this must be a freaking conspriacy because all the good stuff is coming out 3r-4th quarter this year.  Here's to stimulating th economy
2/15/2008 6:07:21 AM EDT
[#38]
I'm in for one in .45.  For less than a grand..I have optics and this seems like a great new toy!

Peace,


Dean
2/15/2008 7:17:40 AM EDT
[#39]
I too will take one for less than a grand but in 9mm. BTW, when is it going to be released
2/15/2008 8:03:05 AM EDT
[#40]
Mr Marfione and the MSAR,

Nicely done!
This is a very exciting product (and at an attainable price).




Thanks,
B.
2/16/2008 4:56:59 AM EDT
[#41]
This makes me glad I didn't impulse buy a Beretta Storm last year.  
2/16/2008 6:03:20 AM EDT
[#42]
This is GREAT. I'm in for two.
I hope you can bring them out SOON.
2/16/2008 6:25:26 AM EDT
[#43]
So where's the rest of the data?  MSAR's sight has nothing.  There MUST be more than one paragraph and a half dozen pics!
2/16/2008 9:52:30 AM EDT
[#44]
I will get a 9mm and a 45.......or one and then the other caliber conversion parts....depending on conversion part prices.

Are the folks that make that "Funky" .45 subgun that takes Glock .45 mags making mag extensions? I would hate to only have 13rd mags...haha. If nothing else, Arendono (sp?) makes +3 basepads for the glock .45.......If I remember correctly.


P.S. What is the little silver piece right behind the pistol grip area....in front of the mag well....know what I am talking about???
2/16/2008 10:37:09 AM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:
P.S. What is the little silver piece right behind the pistol grip area....in front of the mag well....know what I am talking about???


Mag release, I believe.



B.
2/16/2008 11:03:26 AM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
Are the folks that make that "Funky" .45 subgun that takes Glock .45 mags making mag extensions? I would hate to only have 13rd mags...haha. If nothing else, Arendono (sp?) makes +3 basepads for the glock .45.......If I remember correctly.


I saw some 25 round mags for the glock 45 in the sportsman’s guide some time ago.

I for one want to get one in 10mm and try to get a barrel in 9x25mm, which would reach some 2000+ FPS, surpassing the performance of .30 carbine.
2/16/2008 11:28:39 AM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:


Are the folks that make that "Funky" .45 subgun that takes Glock .45 mags making mag extensions? I would hate to only have 13rd mags...haha. If nothing else, Arendono (sp?) makes +3 basepads for the glock .45.......If I remember correctly.


For .45 GLOCK mags,
1) The makers of the KRISS have promised extensions, but I haven't seen any
2) Taylor Freelance makes nice +4 extensions Taylor Freelance
3) Scherer makes hit or miss 25(?) round mags
4) ProMag made some drums that fit on the bottom of G21 mags, but they stopped selling them as soon as they started, so they must have sucked. They are the same ones you can still get on 1911 mags and 10/22 mags.  
2/16/2008 11:37:12 AM EDT
[#48]
Linky

I don’t recall it costing 50 bucks
2/16/2008 2:04:18 PM EDT
[#49]
I do remember the Sherer mags for the .45 glock, but I have heard nothing but BAD reviews. I had owned some of the Sherer 33rd 9mm mags for the glock back in the old days (late 80s, early 90s) and they ran fine. Don't know how they screwed the .45 mag up. Maybe they have the bugs out of it now????

Here are the Arendondo (I have some for my XD mags and they work great), they add 4 rounds in .45...but they are $31 per mag to get the capacity up....too much to trick out 5-6 mags for me.

Click Here
2/16/2008 2:07:58 PM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:

Quoted:
$995 for no optic?  

I gotta have one!  


+1


+2

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