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8/13/2025 8:57:33 PM EDT
My new Seekins rifle will be arriving shortly. Have only has 1:10 twists in my 308 bolt rifles. Does this twist like heavy or lighter bullets? Am hoping my current 200 gr loads work well but can reload to what’s best.
8/14/2025 2:32:15 PM EDT
[#1]
I had no idea, but I thought it'd be an interesting thing to ask one of the AI models.
Here is what it put out.

A .308 rifle with a 1:11.25" twist rate is actually right in the sweet spot for medium-weight bullets, but it can still handle a broad range.

Here's how it breaks down:

Lighter bullets (147 155 gr)

This twist will stabilize them fine, but you may not get the absolute best long-range performance compared to a faster twist because lighter bullets lose velocity and energy quicker in flight.

At short to mid ranges (inside ~600 yards), they'll perform very well and often give higher muzzle velocity and flatter trajectory.

Medium-weight bullets (165 175 gr)   Ideal for 1:11.25

This is the weight range your twist is optimized for.

Bullets like the 168 gr SMK or 175 gr SMK are extremely popular in precision .308 rifles with this twist, balancing stability, accuracy, and wind resistance.

Heavier bullets (190+ gr)

The twist can stabilize some heavier match bullets (up to ~190 200 gr), but as you get heavier, you may see reduced velocity and possibly less-than-perfect stability, especially at lower temperatures or longer distances.

If you consistently shoot heavy bullets (200+ gr) or subsonics, a faster twist like 1:10 would be preferable.

Bottom line:
Your 1:11.25" twist will perform best with medium-weight bullets around 165 175 grains.
If you want maximum versatility and longer-range stability in .308, 175 gr is a safe bet. If you're shooting under 600 yards and want speed, 155 168 gr will shine.

If you tell me what your target distance is, I can recommend an exact grain weight and bullet type for your setup.

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8/14/2025 8:33:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Bearcat24][Edited] [#2]
Seen that. Some forums say no to 200 gr while others say it will work. After I break in the barrel, will try my current load of 200 gr ELD X and see how it goes. Thanks folks.
8/23/2025 7:00:22 PM EDT
[#3]
1:11.25 is "optimized" for 175gr OTM.
8/23/2025 9:32:44 PM EDT
[#4]
Plan on trying my 200 grain loads but will reload some 178’s to be ready. From everything I have read, the 178 or around there are optimum for this twist.
8/25/2025 9:09:38 PM EDT
[#5]
Got out to the range today. After my break in rounds, decided not to try my 200 gr loads. Used my 168 Amax loads for my AR10’s. Very accurate. Will load up some 178’s to see how it goes.
8/31/2025 9:14:30 PM EDT
[#6]
The 178’s sucked. Will try 178 ELD X, 190 nosier and my 200 gr ELD X to see how it goes.
11/23/2025 1:43:44 AM EDT
[#7]
That is an oddball twist rate.  It was developed to shoot 155 gr. Palma projectiles on National Match Courses.  It may be too slow.
11/23/2025 3:40:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Vikingsouthpaw:
That is an oddball twist rate.  It was developed to shoot 155 gr. Palma projectiles on National Match Courses.  It may be too slow.
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I don't think that's correct. I think the Palma twist is 12 or 14.
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11/23/2025 9:30:53 PM EDT
[#9]
The 178’s didn’t do very well. Came across the Hornady 174 ELD-VT. Wow, what a difference. Surprised it’s a varmit bullet. High BC too.
6/22/2026 4:30:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 308223][Edited] [#10]
It's  not always the weight it's  the length of the bullet, velocity, and weight, together.  Look up  JBM ballistics.com.  they have a stability chart you can input your round and all the particulars.  On this site it also has a library of bullets lengths.  You will have to look up the ballistic coefficient  of your bullet for input from the bullet mfg web page.   It also asks for the temp in your area, velocity, projectile diameter, plastic tip length (if any).  I Don't  know how accurate all of this is.  It couldn't  hurt to try it.
6/27/2026 9:34:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ruin][Edited] [#11]
Someone touched on it but 11.25 is optimized for the 175 OTM, specifically the SMK.

Edit: the most well known example is the M24 Sniper Rifle.
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7/21/2026 8:36:41 PM EDT
[#12]
1:10 twist is the best twist. It will shoot everything well.

Always err on the side of a faster twist, you will never regret it.
7/22/2026 9:40:08 PM EDT
[#13]
My Remington 700 5r milspec is 1:11.25 and it likes 168 SMK’s. Haveotried anything else, no need to.





7/22/2026 9:48:51 PM EDT
[#14]
https://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmstab-5.1.cgi
9/4/2026 10:08:34 PM EDT
[#15]
I have a rock creek 5R in that twist that is a laser beam, with 175’s and 178’s
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